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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 892321 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201006 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | NCT.TRACON |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I was working the san francisco final. I turned a turboprop to a 330 or 310 heading from a northeast bound heading. The pilot acknowledged it but didn't turn right away. I started looking at the next aircraft; and noticed the turboprop didn't turn. I again issued a turn to 310 immediately. The pilot didn't reply; it is possible that the transmission was blocked. I again issued an immediate left turn to 310 to the turboprop (3rd time). He acknowledged it. Around the same time a B737 was departing from sjc. The turboprop and the B737 came within about 2.5 miles of each other; the conflict alert sounded but not until I had taken action to separate the two aircraft. If the turboprop had turned when I told him to; there would have been no loss of separation. I consider this event a pilot deviation. The san francisco final is busy with arrivals most times of the day. In this example we were in trail; which means delays; a full final for most of the day; well into the night. To work the final you must time your turns at the right moment. What I was doing was normal and appropriate; the turboprop should have turned when I told him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NCT Controller described a loss of separation event between a SFO arrival and a SJC departure; the reporter alleging the SFO arrival failed to turn as directed even after three turns were issued.
Narrative: I was working the San Francisco final. I turned a turboprop to a 330 or 310 heading from a northeast bound heading. The pilot acknowledged it but didn't turn right away. I started looking at the next aircraft; and noticed the turboprop didn't turn. I again issued a turn to 310 immediately. The pilot didn't reply; it is possible that the transmission was blocked. I again issued an immediate left turn to 310 to the turboprop (3rd time). He acknowledged it. Around the same time a B737 was departing from SJC. The turboprop and the B737 came within about 2.5 miles of each other; the conflict alert sounded but not until I had taken action to separate the two aircraft. If the turboprop had turned when I told him to; there would have been no loss of separation. I consider this event a pilot deviation. The San Francisco final is busy with arrivals most times of the day. In this example we were in trail; which means delays; a full final for most of the day; well into the night. To work the final you must time your turns at the right moment. What I was doing was normal and appropriate; the turboprop should have turned when I told him.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.