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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : grc|
airport : grb
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
pilot : atp
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 50|
flight time total : 3200
flight time type : 750
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
I was asked to ferry on aircraft from grb to mqt for maintenance. After doing a walk around we found a navigation light out. I called dispatch and told them we could not go because of the light being out. Dispatch said I could. I felt the ferry permit did not allow us to go outside the part 91 regulations. I then requested to talk to our chief pilot. He indicated this was done all the time and it was legal. He said I could also check with our director of quality control. I also did this. He told me that our principal operations inspector told him it was legal for us to ferry at night like this as long as our other lights were working. They were so based on this I departed. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised strobe lights were working but he still felt the wing position lights should be working. Chief pilot did not indicate which far he was using for his information. Has heard nothing from the FAA reference the flight and feels the incident is closed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FERRY FLT WITH NAVIGATION LIGHT INOP.
Narrative: I WAS ASKED TO FERRY ON ACFT FROM GRB TO MQT FOR MAINT. AFTER DOING A WALK AROUND WE FOUND A NAVIGATION LIGHT OUT. I CALLED DISPATCH AND TOLD THEM WE COULD NOT GO BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT BEING OUT. DISPATCH SAID I COULD. I FELT THE FERRY PERMIT DID NOT ALLOW US TO GO OUTSIDE THE PART 91 REGS. I THEN REQUESTED TO TALK TO OUR CHIEF PLT. HE INDICATED THIS WAS DONE ALL THE TIME AND IT WAS LEGAL. HE SAID I COULD ALSO CHECK WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF QUALITY CTL. I ALSO DID THIS. HE TOLD ME THAT OUR PRINCIPAL OPERATIONS INSPECTOR TOLD HIM IT WAS LEGAL FOR US TO FERRY AT NIGHT LIKE THIS AS LONG AS OUR OTHER LIGHTS WERE WORKING. THEY WERE SO BASED ON THIS I DEPARTED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: REPORTER ADVISED STROBE LIGHTS WERE WORKING BUT HE STILL FELT THE WING POSITION LIGHTS SHOULD BE WORKING. CHIEF PLT DID NOT INDICATE WHICH FAR HE WAS USING FOR HIS INFORMATION. HAS HEARD NOTHING FROM THE FAA REFERENCE THE FLT AND FEELS THE INCIDENT IS CLOSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.