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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 888187 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201005 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | CZQX.ARTCC |
| State Reference | NF |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Oceanic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 240 Flight Crew Total 25000 Flight Crew Type 9000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Regarding ETOPS operations: due to the volcano in iceland converting a massive amount of heretofore useable airspace into; in essence; a no fly zone; it would seem incumbent to revisit and revise current ETOPS sops. A decompression scenario under current procedures could very well put the flight in jeopardy by flying direct to the ETOPS alternate. A revision that allows the crew to descend; then parallel the current route either forward or backward until a point where a direct route to the alternate could keep the flight outside of the ash contamination zone; is needed. Etp's would have to reflect this added time. This could also represent the potential to convert 138 ETOPS operations to 180 minute operations; or under worst case scenario; require the cancellation or delay of a flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An International Captain suggests modifying North Atlantic ETOPS operations so that potential enroute emergency diversions would have ETP's which avoid the volcanic ash no fly areas until a direct path to the diversion airport is reached.
Narrative: Regarding ETOPS operations: Due to the volcano in Iceland converting a massive amount of heretofore useable airspace into; in essence; a no fly zone; it would seem incumbent to revisit and revise current ETOPS SOPs. A decompression scenario under current procedures could very well put the flight in jeopardy by flying direct to the ETOPS alternate. A revision that allows the crew to descend; then parallel the current route either forward or backward until a point where a direct route to the alternate could keep the flight outside of the ash contamination zone; is needed. ETP's would have to reflect this added time. This could also represent the potential to convert 138 ETOPS Operations to 180 minute Operations; or under worst case scenario; require the cancellation or delay of a flight.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.