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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 883693 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201004 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZKC.ARTCC |
| State Reference | KS |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Lockheed Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I was working sector 12 which controls FL240-FL340. I saw a pvd on my scope of a flight of 2/F16's; negative rvsm aircraft. The flight was level at FL350 northwest of spi VORTAC. I don't know if chicago center sent me the pvd or the super high above me; sector 98. Sector 98 informed me the flight was also nonstandard flight of two F16's and one mile in-trail in addition to being negative rvsm. I was never called for a point out by either hannah city or roberts sectors of chicago center. Since the flight was level at FL350 and negative rvsm; I have to protect airspace in my stratum for that flight and was deviated by not receiving a point out. Traffic was not delayed in any way. There was not a loss of separation with any aircraft in my sector involving the F16 flight. Recommendation; follow through with procedure and point out negative rvsm aircraft to all affected sectors/ centers. Also; chicago simply could have climbed the flight to FL370 and only had to coordinate with the super high; sector 98; about the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZKC controller described an operational deviation when adjacent sector/s failed to point out a flight of non standard/non RVSM military aircraft that required additional separation.
Narrative: I was working Sector 12 which controls FL240-FL340. I saw a PVD on my scope of a flight of 2/F16's; negative RVSM aircraft. The flight was level at FL350 northwest of SPI VORTAC. I don't know if Chicago Center sent me the PVD or the super high above me; Sector 98. Sector 98 informed me the flight was also nonstandard flight of two F16's and one mile in-trail in addition to being negative RVSM. I was never called for a point out by either Hannah City or Roberts Sectors of Chicago Center. Since the flight was level at FL350 and negative RVSM; I have to protect airspace in my stratum for that flight and was deviated by not receiving a point out. Traffic was not delayed in any way. There was not a loss of separation with any aircraft in my sector involving the F16 flight. Recommendation; follow through with procedure and point out negative RVSM aircraft to all affected sectors/ centers. Also; Chicago simply could have climbed the flight to FL370 and only had to coordinate with the super high; Sector 98; about the flight.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.