|37000 Feet||Browse and search NASA's
Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : ric|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||ground other : taxi|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Anomaly||incursion : runway|
non adherence : clearance
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
While rolling out on runway 34 at ric we received a clearance re: runway 2 which touches runway 34 at the far end. After crossing runway 2 we contacted ground control and they said we were told to hold short of runway 2. We said we had been given clearance to cross. We were then told there was 'no problem.' situations such as this where there are runways that touch, or almost touch, require much better communications than we had. A 'hold short,' or 'cleared to cross' shouldn't be given while we are in the middle of thrust reverse and stopping the aircraft. A reminder needs to also be given for a plane that is about to cross an active runway. Light signals, such as traffic lights, would be another way to assist crews in this critical phase. Weak verbal communications, no matter who is right or wrong, don't help this potentially dangerous situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ON LNDG ROLL CROSSED INTERSECTING RWY AFTER BEING INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT.
Narrative: WHILE ROLLING OUT ON RWY 34 AT RIC WE RECEIVED A CLRNC RE: RWY 2 WHICH TOUCHES RWY 34 AT THE FAR END. AFTER XING RWY 2 WE CONTACTED GND CTL AND THEY SAID WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2. WE SAID WE HAD BEEN GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS. WE WERE THEN TOLD THERE WAS 'NO PROB.' SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS WHERE THERE ARE RWYS THAT TOUCH, OR ALMOST TOUCH, REQUIRE MUCH BETTER COMS THAN WE HAD. A 'HOLD SHORT,' OR 'CLRED TO CROSS' SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN WHILE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THRUST REVERSE AND STOPPING THE ACFT. A REMINDER NEEDS TO ALSO BE GIVEN FOR A PLANE THAT IS ABOUT TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY. LIGHT SIGNALS, SUCH AS TFC LIGHTS, WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO ASSIST CREWS IN THIS CRITICAL PHASE. WEAK VERBAL COMS, NO MATTER WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG, DON'T HELP THIS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.