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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 87385 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : 3ck |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 1910 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 87385 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While getting 'check out' in an aircraft by a CFI, we overflew an uncontrolled airport and came within approximately 500' from a high fixed wing aircraft. The CFI spotted the aircraft before I did and initiated a climb for further sep. Although a collision was not imminent, we were closer to the other aircraft than I would have liked. Factors include our failure to announce the overflt on unicom and possibly a higher than published pattern altitude being flown by the other aircraft. He appeared to be downwind. Lessons learned: remain well clear (vertically and horizontally of uncontrolled airports). Announce intentions over unicom.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX TWO GA SMA ACFT OVER NON TWR ARPT UNICOM CTAF.
Narrative: WHILE GETTING 'CHK OUT' IN AN ACFT BY A CFI, WE OVERFLEW AN UNCONTROLLED ARPT AND CAME WITHIN APPROX 500' FROM A HIGH FIXED WING ACFT. THE CFI SPOTTED THE ACFT BEFORE I DID AND INITIATED A CLB FOR FURTHER SEP. ALTHOUGH A COLLISION WAS NOT IMMINENT, WE WERE CLOSER TO THE OTHER ACFT THAN I WOULD HAVE LIKED. FACTORS INCLUDE OUR FAILURE TO ANNOUNCE THE OVERFLT ON UNICOM AND POSSIBLY A HIGHER THAN PUBLISHED PATTERN ALT BEING FLOWN BY THE OTHER ACFT. HE APPEARED TO BE DOWNWIND. LESSONS LEARNED: REMAIN WELL CLR (VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY OF UNCONTROLLED ARPTS). ANNOUNCE INTENTIONS OVER UNICOM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.