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Air carrier arrival to mmun voiced concern regarding the new arrival/approach procedures indicating confusion by both flight crews and controllers.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 867803 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201001 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | MMUN.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR NA |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
I flew into mmun yesterday for the first time since all the new arrivals came out. I had been warned on my previous flight by a captain that mmun was a mess. They have devised an arrival procedure with commercial chart 1 company that I have never seen before. On top of this; they give instructions that ask you to deviate; and then return to the published procedure numerous times during the arrival. We received a clearance to descend to a specific altitude then turn right about 60 degrees. Then the controller says after reaching this heading wait 3 minutes and then turn direct to a fix. This type of clearance is just asking for a mid-air. CFIT (not so much in mmun) or flight deviation. I know we cannot go down to mexico and start changing things but maybe a bulletin telling mmun pilots to be ready for a goat rope.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier arrival to MMUN voiced concern regarding the new arrival/approach procedures indicating confusion by both flight crews and controllers.
Narrative: I flew into MMUN yesterday for the first time since all the new arrivals came out. I had been warned on my previous flight by a Captain that MMUN was a mess. They have devised an arrival procedure with Commercial Chart 1 company that I have never seen before. On top of this; they give instructions that ask you to deviate; and then return to the published procedure numerous times during the arrival. We received a clearance to descend to a specific altitude then turn right about 60 degrees. Then the Controller says after reaching this heading wait 3 minutes and then turn direct to a fix. This type of clearance is just asking for a mid-air. CFIT (not so much in MMUN) or flight deviation. I know we cannot go down to Mexico and start changing things but maybe a bulletin telling MMUN pilots to be ready for a goat rope.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.