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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 85432 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198804 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : den |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : den |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 7 |
| ASRS Report | 85432 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18600 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Medium large transport X and small transport Y were holding and waiting to land denver. I was the relieving controller and it is my contention that small transport Y was cleared inbound to land den, from the briefing I received. Small transport Y was descended from 17000 to 16000' to land den. Medium large transport X was cleared inbound to den, nebnd. Small transport Y reached the holding fix and turned swbnd. Realizing small transport Y was not cleared inbound, I turned both aircraft but could not maintain sep. Medium large transport X inbound at 16000' was issued an immediate left turn and small transport Y an immediate right turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN 2 ACFT IN HOLDING PATTERN AT SAME ALT.
Narrative: MLG X AND SMT Y WERE HOLDING AND WAITING TO LAND DENVER. I WAS THE RELIEVING CTLR AND IT IS MY CONTENTION THAT SMT Y WAS CLRED INBND TO LAND DEN, FROM THE BRIEFING I RECEIVED. SMT Y WAS DSNDED FROM 17000 TO 16000' TO LAND DEN. MLG X WAS CLRED INBND TO DEN, NEBND. SMT Y REACHED THE HOLDING FIX AND TURNED SWBND. REALIZING SMT Y WAS NOT CLRED INBND, I TURNED BOTH ACFT BUT COULD NOT MAINTAIN SEP. MLG X INBND AT 16000' WAS ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE LEFT TURN AND SMT Y AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.