Narrative:

My charter company is flying trips that are very long with tired pilots. My family found this site and suggested I speak up before we have an accident like in ny. We did two trips that the pilots told me were not legal. They said something about using three pilots when we are only allowed to use two and having to adjust the time they showed up to the airport to make it fit? One flight was from the bahamas to ukraine and the other was from venice to santa fe. We are being told to be team players; two girls have quit and we are all scared. Can you make them fly safer? During the ukraine flight we used all the giii pilots; and the owner of another giii wanted to fly to panama; so the owner of the charter company took a sales guy as a pilot? They said he was a pilot; but can any pilot fly jets or do they have to go to school? When I asked they said under 91 they can do what ever they want . . . I don't really know what that means.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A charter company Flight Attendant describes her Company's use of pilots to fly long trips not in compliance with FAR flight time limitations.

Narrative: My charter company is flying trips that are very long with tired pilots. My family found this site and suggested I speak up before we have an accident like in NY. We did two trips that the pilots told me were not legal. They said something about using three pilots when we are only allowed to use two and having to adjust the time they showed up to the airport to make it fit? One flight was from the Bahamas to Ukraine and the other was from Venice to Santa Fe. We are being told to be team players; two girls have quit and we are all scared. Can you make them fly safer? During the Ukraine flight we used all the GIII pilots; and the owner of another GIII wanted to fly to Panama; so the owner of the charter company took a sales guy as a pilot? They said he was a pilot; but can any pilot fly jets or do they have to go to school? When I asked they said under 91 they can do what ever they want . . . I don't really know what that means.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.