Small aircraft aircraft doing touch and go practice and one got too close to the other.

Attributes
ACN	84930
Time
Date	198803
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : apa
State Reference	CO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 6700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : apa
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 131 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 151
ASRS Report	84930
Person 2
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

A repeat occurrence of another small aircraft on final to 35L in touch and go. Traffic on long final and our small aircraft X turning an appropriate left base to runway 35L also for touch and goes. We were above and west of traffic on final which passed in front. We asked for a 360 degree turn, but were denied by apa tower because of traffic behind. We maneuvered left and then right to position aircraft behind other small aircraft Y on final. It would seem that ATC would establish close in patterns for touch and goes. Long finals in this type pattern produce traffic conflict.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA ACFT DOING TOUCH AND GO PRACTICE AND ONE GOT TOO CLOSE TO THE OTHER.

Narrative: A REPEAT OCCURRENCE OF ANOTHER SMA ON FINAL TO 35L IN TOUCH AND GO. TFC ON LONG FINAL AND OUR SMA X TURNING AN APPROPRIATE LEFT BASE TO RWY 35L ALSO FOR TOUCH AND GOES. WE WERE ABOVE AND W OF TFC ON FINAL WHICH PASSED IN FRONT. WE ASKED FOR A 360 DEG TURN, BUT WERE DENIED BY APA TWR BECAUSE OF TFC BEHIND. WE MANEUVERED LEFT AND THEN RIGHT TO POS ACFT BEHIND OTHER SMA Y ON FINAL. IT WOULD SEEM THAT ATC WOULD ESTABLISH CLOSE IN PATTERNS FOR TOUCH AND GOES. LONG FINALS IN THIS TYPE PATTERN PRODUCE TFC CONFLICT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.