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Air carrier so selected wrong ATIS frequency and completed landing data card using las information when aircraft was landing at lax. Reporter states las was not using airport identification, but just said 'international arrival information.'
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 84884 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198803 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 36 flight time total : 3131 flight time type : 36 |
| ASRS Report | 84884 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
While en route to lax, I tuned in the las ATIS frequency by misreading my frequency page. Las ATIS only idented itself as 'international arrival information.' I assumed I had lax and filled out the landing data using the wrong WX information. Even though the captain quickly recognized my error, the potential for problems is certainly present when an incomplete airport identifier is used. Later in the trip, another airport only idented itself as 'international,' (st louis, I believe) so the situation is more common than one might suspect. I believe all airports should be reminded to use their complete identify, even on ATIS, to preclude this situation in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR SO SELECTED WRONG ATIS FREQ AND COMPLETED LNDG DATA CARD USING LAS INFORMATION WHEN ACFT WAS LNDG AT LAX. REPORTER STATES LAS WAS NOT USING ARPT IDENTIFICATION, BUT JUST SAID 'INTERNATIONAL ARR INFORMATION.'
Narrative: WHILE ENRTE TO LAX, I TUNED IN THE LAS ATIS FREQ BY MISREADING MY FREQ PAGE. LAS ATIS ONLY IDENTED ITSELF AS 'INTL ARR INFO.' I ASSUMED I HAD LAX AND FILLED OUT THE LNDG DATA USING THE WRONG WX INFO. EVEN THOUGH THE CAPT QUICKLY RECOGNIZED MY ERROR, THE POTENTIAL FOR PROBS IS CERTAINLY PRESENT WHEN AN INCOMPLETE ARPT IDENTIFIER IS USED. LATER IN THE TRIP, ANOTHER ARPT ONLY IDENTED ITSELF AS 'INTL,' (ST LOUIS, I BELIEVE) SO THE SITUATION IS MORE COMMON THAN ONE MIGHT SUSPECT. I BELIEVE ALL ARPTS SHOULD BE REMINDED TO USE THEIR COMPLETE IDENT, EVEN ON ATIS, TO PRECLUDE THIS SITUATION IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.