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Air carrier crossed active runway while other air carrier was starting takeoff roll. Operational error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 83596 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198803 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 83596 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 83730 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 7000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Under clear weather conditions, landed runway 9R at atl. While exiting the runway tower was engaged in a high level of discussions with several other air carrier aircraft relavent to a problem with jax center having to do with traffic saturation and the need to clear these aircraft for takeoff as soon as possible. When we cleared the runway, the copilot understood the tower to say 'cleared to cross runway 9L' and he read back 'roger, cleared to cross 9L' hearing no further comments, we proceeded across the runway. I noticed at the time of crossing an air carrier just beginning its takeoff roll. No evasive action was necessary, as we were approximately. 7000'-8000' down a 10000' runway with more than adequate separation. Subsequent discussions with the tower supervisor on the phone indicated they had listened to the tapes, and the controller had said 'hold short of 9L' and we in fact had readback 'cleared to cross 9L' and the controller had missed the incorrect read back. His indication to me was it was an operational error on their part. I suspect the copilot might have heard the clearance for the aircraft on the takeoff roll and thought it was for us. - Unable to get the aircraft voice recorder as the aircraft departed immediately. Supplemental information in acn 83730: as we exited 9R on a highspeed taxiway tower made a transmission to us and the first officer read back 'our identify cleared to cross 9L' as we had static on one of the radios that tower frequency 119.1 was on, I had both radios on 119.1 with volume up at no time after I read back the crossing clearance did they say anything else.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CROSSED ACTIVE RWY WHILE OTHER ACR WAS STARTING TKOF ROLL. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: UNDER CLEAR WEATHER CONDITIONS, LANDED RWY 9R AT ATL. WHILE EXITING THE RWY TWR WAS ENGAGED IN A HIGH LEVEL OF DISCUSSIONS WITH SEVERAL OTHER AIR CARRIER ACFT RELAVENT TO A PROBLEM WITH JAX CENTER HAVING TO DO WITH TFC SATURATION AND THE NEED TO CLEAR THESE ACFT FOR TKOF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WHEN WE CLRED THE RUNWAY, THE COPLT UNDERSTOOD THE TWR TO SAY 'CLRED TO CROSS RUNWAY 9L' AND HE READ BACK 'ROGER, CLRED TO CROSS 9L' HEARING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, WE PROCEEDED ACROSS THE RWY. I NOTICED AT THE TIME OF XING AN AIR CARRIER JUST BEGINNING ITS TAKEOFF ROLL. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS NECESSARY, AS WE WERE APPROX. 7000'-8000' DOWN A 10000' RWY WITH MORE THAN ADEQUATE SEPARATION. SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TWR SUPERVISOR ON THE PHONE INDICATED THEY HAD LISTENED TO THE TAPES, AND THE CTLR HAD SAID 'HOLD SHORT OF 9L' AND WE IN FACT HAD READBACK 'CLRED TO CROSS 9L' AND THE CTLR HAD MISSED THE INCORRECT READ BACK. HIS INDICATION TO ME WAS IT WAS AN OPERATIONAL ERROR ON THEIR PART. I SUSPECT THE COPLT MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE CLRNC FOR THE ACFT ON THE TAKEOFF ROLL AND THOUGHT IT WAS FOR US. - UNABLE TO GET THE ACFT VOICE RECORDER AS THE ACFT DEPARTED IMMEDIATELY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION IN ACN 83730: AS WE EXITED 9R ON A HIGHSPEED TAXIWAY TWR MADE A XMISSION TO US AND THE F/O READ BACK 'OUR IDENT CLRED TO CROSS 9L' AS WE HAD STATIC ON ONE OF THE RADIOS THAT TWR FREQ 119.1 WAS ON, I HAD BOTH RADIOS ON 119.1 WITH VOLUME UP AT NO TIME AFTER I READ BACK THE XING CLRNC DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.