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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : agc|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||landing other|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 129|
flight time total : 16699
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
|Consequence||faa : investigated|
faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Flight was completing a flight check of agc runway 28 ILS. At 3 mi on final the pilot asked the tower on braking action. Tower reply was 'reported good by an medium large transport.' tower had beenadvised that flight had to 6 roll to the stop end of the runway and stop on the numbers for a few seconds to complete the flight check. Normal landing completed with a crosswind of 50 degree to 18 KTS. Aircraft was slowed with thrust reversers and brakes. Approximately 1000' from stop end of runway additional braking was applied to stop aircraft. Unknown to flight crew, aircraft was on ice and started to fish tail) pilot knew there was no over run and a 350' drop at the end) pilot turned nose wheel toward the left toward the last remaining taxiway, aircraft turned sideways and slid across taxiway on to the ground, stopping with the tail of aircraft just clear of runway and perpendicular to runway. Right gear was in the mud up to the axle. Called tower and advised them aircraft was off the runway and stuck in the mud, would they call the FBO and have them send a tug to pull aircraft out. Their reply was 'where are you?' we said 'off the side of the stop end of the runway,' tower, 'oh yes, we see you now.' county airport authority personnel came to the aircraft and also had a plow and sand truck start to plow and sand the stop end of runway 28. All personnel were slipping on taxiway as it also was completely covered with ice. It took approximately 1 hour to pull the aircraft out of the mud and during this time, tower continued to let aircraft land and take off. Agc then issued the following WX: agc sp west 7X 1 1/2 s-f 3312 G 18/010 agc 02/007 agc brap. Incident report filed with aea FSDO-03 at agc. Recommendations: 1) tower personnel, when giving runway conditions, i.e., braking action, should give it for the entire length of runway and not just the landing end. If unknown, tower personnel should request airport authorities to check the runway with a vehicle. 2) although runway 10 (stop end of 28) is not used for landing as often as runway 28, airport authorities should have plowed and sanded the runway and taxiways before an aircraft slid off the runway, not after. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following. Braking action on the first half of the runway was normal. No snow removal or sanding had been done on the last half, this information not given. Local FSDO requested a written report. Aircraft was not damaged other than mud around the landing gear. Flown out the next day. Manager took no action and the case has been dropped. Was concerned the tower had not monitored the rollout and was not aware of their position on the field.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BRAKING ACTION REPORT FAILED TO INCLUDE FACT LAST HALF RWY CONDITION UUNKNOWN.
Narrative: FLT WAS COMPLETING A FLT CHK OF AGC RWY 28 ILS. AT 3 MI ON FINAL THE PLT ASKED THE TWR ON BRAKING ACTION. TWR REPLY WAS 'RPTED GOOD BY AN MLG.' TWR HAD BEENADVISED THAT FLT HAD TO 6 ROLL TO THE STOP END OF THE RWY AND STOP ON THE NUMBERS FOR A FEW SECONDS TO COMPLETE THE FLT CHECK. NORMAL LNDG COMPLETED WITH A XWIND OF 50 DEG TO 18 KTS. ACFT WAS SLOWED WITH THRUST REVERSERS AND BRAKES. APPROX 1000' FROM STOP END OF RWY ADDITIONAL BRAKING WAS APPLIED TO STOP ACFT. UNKNOWN TO FLT CREW, ACFT WAS ON ICE AND STARTED TO FISH TAIL) PLT KNEW THERE WAS NO OVER RUN AND A 350' DROP AT THE END) PLT TURNED NOSE WHEEL TOWARD THE LEFT TOWARD THE LAST REMAINING TAXIWAY, ACFT TURNED SIDEWAYS AND SLID ACROSS TAXIWAY ON TO THE GND, STOPPING WITH THE TAIL OF ACFT JUST CLEAR OF RWY AND PERPENDICULAR TO RWY. RIGHT GEAR WAS IN THE MUD UP TO THE AXLE. CALLED TWR AND ADVISED THEM ACFT WAS OFF THE RWY AND STUCK IN THE MUD, WOULD THEY CALL THE FBO AND HAVE THEM SEND A TUG TO PULL ACFT OUT. THEIR REPLY WAS 'WHERE ARE YOU?' WE SAID 'OFF THE SIDE OF THE STOP END OF THE RWY,' TWR, 'OH YES, WE SEE YOU NOW.' COUNTY ARPT AUTHORITY PERSONNEL CAME TO THE ACFT AND ALSO HAD A PLOW AND SAND TRUCK START TO PLOW AND SAND THE STOP END OF RWY 28. ALL PERSONNEL WERE SLIPPING ON TAXIWAY AS IT ALSO WAS COMPLETELY COVERED WITH ICE. IT TOOK APPROX 1 HOUR TO PULL THE ACFT OUT OF THE MUD AND DURING THIS TIME, TWR CONTINUED TO LET ACFT LAND AND TAKE OFF. AGC THEN ISSUED THE FOLLOWING WX: AGC SP W 7X 1 1/2 S-F 3312 G 18/010 AGC 02/007 AGC BRAP. INCIDENT REPORT FILED WITH AEA FSDO-03 AT AGC. RECOMMENDATIONS: 1) TWR PERSONNEL, WHEN GIVING RWY CONDITIONS, I.E., BRAKING ACTION, SHOULD GIVE IT FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF RWY AND NOT JUST THE LANDING END. IF UNKNOWN, TWR PERSONNEL SHOULD REQUEST ARPT AUTHORITIES TO CHECK THE RWY WITH A VEHICLE. 2) ALTHOUGH RWY 10 (STOP END OF 28) IS NOT USED FOR LNDG AS OFTEN AS RWY 28, ARPT AUTHORITIES SHOULD HAVE PLOWED AND SANDED THE RWY AND TAXIWAYS BEFORE AN ACFT SLID OFF THE RWY, NOT AFTER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING. BRAKING ACTION ON THE FIRST HALF OF THE RWY WAS NORMAL. NO SNOW REMOVAL OR SANDING HAD BEEN DONE ON THE LAST HALF, THIS INFO NOT GIVEN. LOCAL FSDO REQUESTED A WRITTEN REPORT. ACFT WAS NOT DAMAGED OTHER THAN MUD AROUND THE LNDG GEAR. FLOWN OUT THE NEXT DAY. MGR TOOK NO ACTION AND THE CASE HAS BEEN DROPPED. WAS CONCERNED THE TWR HAD NOT MONITORED THE ROLLOUT AND WAS NOT AWARE OF THEIR POSITION ON THE FIELD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.