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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : ono|
airport : onon
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 4000|
msl bound upper : 5000
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : slc|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Make Model Name||Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : flight engineer|
pilot : cfi
pilot : atp
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 250|
flight time total : 14000
flight time type : 800
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
instruction : trainee
|Qualification||pilot : private|
|Anomaly||conflict : airborne less severe|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
I was acting as PIC for an instrument student. We had filed an IFR flight plan from ontario to payet V-4 boi. Ontario is an uncontrolled airport with an NDB approach. We were not able to contact salt lake center on the ground. We departed south and tanned and flew east in VFR conditions contacting salt lake center, who said they would not be able to activate our IFR clearance until 05. He said he had an aircraft 6 mi south on approach for the ontario airport. We proceeded east, VFR, climbing to 5000' VFR. The tops in the area were slightly above 4000'. We heard the aircraft who was cleared for the approach make a radio transmission on salt lake center frequency. We never did hear slc clear him for an approach, so he must have been clrd before we came on frequency. The other aircraft had not changed over to advisory frequency 122.8 ontario unicom after being cleared for approach. The other aircraft filed a complaint that we were flying IFR in airspace assigned to him for approach. We were 6-7 mi east of the airport at the time of the incident and maintained VFR conditions. The student instrument pilot was under the hood during the climb and departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT COMPLAINT ABOUT OTHER ACFT IN HIS AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS PIC FOR AN INSTRUMENT STUDENT. WE HAD FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM ONTARIO TO PAYET V-4 BOI. ONTARIO IS AN UNCTLED ARPT WITH AN NDB APCH. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONTACT SALT LAKE CENTER ON THE GND. WE DEPARTED S AND TANNED AND FLEW E IN VFR CONDITIONS CONTACTING SALT LAKE CENTER, WHO SAID THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE OUR IFR CLRNC UNTIL 05. HE SAID HE HAD AN ACFT 6 MI S ON APCH FOR THE ONTARIO ARPT. WE PROCEEDED E, VFR, CLBING TO 5000' VFR. THE TOPS IN THE AREA WERE slightly ABOVE 4000'. WE HEARD THE ACFT WHO WAS CLRED FOR THE APCH MAKE A RADIO XMISSION ON SALT LAKE CENTER FREQ. WE NEVER DID HEAR SLC CLR HIM FOR AN APCH, SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN CLRD BEFORE WE CAME ON FREQ. THE OTHER ACFT HAD NOT CHANGED OVER TO ADVISORY FREQ 122.8 ONTARIO UNICOM AFTER BEING CLRED FOR APCH. THE OTHER ACFT FILED A COMPLAINT THAT WE WERE FLYING IFR IN AIRSPACE ASSIGNED TO HIM FOR APCH. WE WERE 6-7 MI E OF THE ARPT AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT AND MAINTAINED VFR CONDITIONS. THE STUDENT INSTRUMENT PLT WAS UNDER THE HOOD DURING THE CLB AND DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.