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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 816022 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200812 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : ord |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 816022 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
On departure out of ord; we were assigned the ord 3 departure procedure; vectors to dennt intersection. Climbing through 10000 feet MSL; the first officer accelerated the airplane to 290 kts. At 12000 feet MSL; ZAU instructed us to resume normal speed. I replied that we were already at normal speed (290 kts) as we weren't assigned anything else by chicago departure. The controller replied that ord 3 departure has a 250 kt speed restriction until advised by ATC for aircraft flying over dennt intersection. I then looked at the ord 3 chart and found that the 250 kt speed restriction is noted in the upper right corner in fine print. I apologized to ATC and admitted that we did not see that prior to departure. She replied; 'no problem;' and mentioned that it was added when the ord 3 departure was updated on nov/08. I admit our mistake in failure to fully review and brief the departure procedure; and I have since highlighted the speed on my chart to ensure I don't miss it in the future when leaving ord. I also feel that a speed restriction pertaining to a departure procedure ought to be more noticeable on a chart; i.e.; in bold print near the departure fix itself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERJ on the O'Hare Three SID from ORD fails to comply with the 250 kt restriction sequestered in the fine print at the top of the page.
Narrative: On departure out of ORD; we were assigned the ORD 3 Departure Procedure; vectors to DENNT Intersection. Climbing through 10000 feet MSL; the First Officer accelerated the airplane to 290 kts. At 12000 feet MSL; ZAU instructed us to resume normal speed. I replied that we were already at normal speed (290 kts) as we weren't assigned anything else by Chicago Departure. The Controller replied that ORD 3 Departure has a 250 kt speed restriction until advised by ATC for aircraft flying over DENNT intersection. I then looked at the ORD 3 chart and found that the 250 kt speed restriction is noted in the upper right corner in fine print. I apologized to ATC and admitted that we did not see that prior to departure. She replied; 'No problem;' and mentioned that it was added when the ORD 3 departure was updated on Nov/08. I admit our mistake in failure to fully review and brief the Departure Procedure; and I have since highlighted the speed on my chart to ensure I don't miss it in the future when leaving ORD. I also feel that a speed restriction pertaining to a Departure Procedure ought to be more noticeable on a chart; i.e.; in BOLD print near the Departure Fix itself.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.