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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 81482 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198801 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : iah |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : iah tower : dal |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 81482 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4200 |
| ASRS Report | 81527 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The boss showed early and didn't have time to file an IFR flight plan so decided to go VFR. I asked the other pilot if we were under the houston TCA, he said no. That was my mistake. I took off and climbed V2 plus 10 for noise abatement the other pilot pulled the chart and told me we're under the TCA. By that time I was already on top of the TCA. Instead of going then checking I will check then go. Also keep the boss from hurrying us into bad judgement. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Flight crew had a better concept and awareness of needs for VFR flight. Check charts before departure, not when airborne. Don't let the boss' pressures create a lack of professional procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP PLT ON VFR CLIMBOUT PENETRATED TCA.
Narrative: THE BOSS SHOWED EARLY AND DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FILE AN IFR FLT PLAN SO DECIDED TO GO VFR. I ASKED THE OTHER PLT IF WE WERE UNDER THE HOUSTON TCA, HE SAID NO. THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. I TOOK OFF AND CLBED V2 PLUS 10 FOR NOISE ABATEMENT THE OTHER PLT PULLED THE CHART AND TOLD ME WE'RE UNDER THE TCA. BY THAT TIME I WAS ALREADY ON TOP OF THE TCA. INSTEAD OF GOING THEN CHKING I WILL CHK THEN GO. ALSO KEEP THE BOSS FROM HURRYING US INTO BAD JUDGEMENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. FLT CREW HAD A BETTER CONCEPT AND AWARENESS OF NEEDS FOR VFR FLT. CHK CHARTS BEFORE DEP, NOT WHEN AIRBORNE. DON'T LET THE BOSS' PRESSURES CREATE A LACK OF PROFESSIONAL PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.