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A crew departing san was forced to raise their voices to ensure positive aircraft transfer and required repeated ATC clearances while taking the runway because of raas alerts.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 811655 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200811 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : san.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time type : 9000 |
| ASRS Report | 811655 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Company |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Lining up on runway 27 in san for takeoff; first officer's leg. Captain using the tiller before handing over the aircraft; the raas announced 'on runway 27' at exactly the same moment that the captain was saying 'you have the aircraft' and the first officer was replying 'I have the aircraft.' we had to repeat ourselves; with raised voices; to ensure that the change of control had in fact been made and acknowledged. During this needless distraction and forced repetition our ability to listen to ATC was impaired. Very simple -- get rid of raas. Just FYI -- in the time since we have had this system inflicted on us again I have not flown with or spoken to a single pilot who doesn't absolutely hate it and think it is just about the dumbest thing at this airline -- and boy; is that saying a lot. Listen to your line pilots and get this hazard out of our cockpits.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CREW DEPARTING SAN WAS FORCED TO RAISE THEIR VOICES TO ENSURE POSITIVE AIRCRAFT TRANSFER AND REQUIRED REPEATED ATC CLEARANCES WHILE TAKING THE RUNWAY BECAUSE OF RAAS ALERTS.
Narrative: LINING UP ON RWY 27 IN SAN FOR TKOF; FO'S LEG. CAPT USING THE TILLER BEFORE HANDING OVER THE ACFT; THE RAAS ANNOUNCED 'ON RWY 27' AT EXACTLY THE SAME MOMENT THAT THE CAPT WAS SAYING 'YOU HAVE THE ACFT' AND THE FO WAS REPLYING 'I HAVE THE ACFT.' WE HAD TO REPEAT OURSELVES; WITH RAISED VOICES; TO ENSURE THAT THE CHANGE OF CTL HAD IN FACT BEEN MADE AND ACKNOWLEDGED. DURING THIS NEEDLESS DISTR AND FORCED REPETITION OUR ABILITY TO LISTEN TO ATC WAS IMPAIRED. VERY SIMPLE -- GET RID OF RAAS. JUST FYI -- IN THE TIME SINCE WE HAVE HAD THIS SYS INFLICTED ON US AGAIN I HAVE NOT FLOWN WITH OR SPOKEN TO A SINGLE PLT WHO DOESN'T ABSOLUTELY HATE IT AND THINK IT IS JUST ABOUT THE DUMBEST THING AT THIS AIRLINE -- AND BOY; IS THAT SAYING A LOT. LISTEN TO YOUR LINE PLTS AND GET THIS HAZARD OUT OF OUR COCKPITS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.