Air carrier medium large transport dispatched on overwater extended without required HF radio equipm...

Attributes
ACN	80614
Time
Date	198801
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : kbv
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zsu
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : zsu
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	80614
Person 2
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : overcame equipment problem
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Company flight planned this flight over a route that this aircraft was not equipped for. We needed HF for communication. Captain and first officer did not realize this until they were out of communication. This was a new route for this crew, so they thought that the route was ok to fly because the company had filed this route. Crew was unfamiliar with international procedure because company did not train them or brief them about flying in this environment. Loss of communication with ATC on A-25 between manna and grann was re-established by contacting a flight on 121.5 and he relayed for us until we could talk to san juan. I discovered the error when I came up to the cockpit to see how the flight was progressing. The captain told me he was unable to talk to anyone, I suggested he try to contact someone on 121.5.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG DISPATCHED ON OVERWATER EXTENDED WITHOUT REQUIRED HF RADIO EQUIPMENT.

Narrative: COMPANY FLT PLANNED THIS FLT OVER A ROUTE THAT THIS ACFT WAS NOT EQUIPPED FOR. WE NEEDED HF FOR COM. CAPT AND F/O DID NOT REALIZE THIS UNTIL THEY WERE OUT OF COM. THIS WAS A NEW ROUTE FOR THIS CREW, SO THEY THOUGHT THAT THE ROUTE WAS OK TO FLY BECAUSE THE COMPANY HAD FILED THIS ROUTE. CREW WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH INTL PROC BECAUSE COMPANY DID NOT TRAIN THEM OR BRIEF THEM ABOUT FLYING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. LOSS OF COM WITH ATC ON A-25 BTWN MANNA AND GRANN WAS RE-ESTABLISHED BY CONTACTING A FLT ON 121.5 AND HE RELAYED FOR US UNTIL WE COULD TALK TO SAN JUAN. I DISCOVERED THE ERROR WHEN I CAME UP TO THE COCKPIT TO SEE HOW THE FLT WAS PROGRESSING. THE CAPT TOLD ME HE WAS UNABLE TO TALK TO ANYONE, I SUGGESTED HE TRY TO CONTACT SOMEONE ON 121.5.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier medium large transport dispatched on overwater extended without required HF radio equipment.