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After completion of a part 135 flight in a cl-300 (bd-100-1a10); two pilots are informed by maintenance control the previous maintenance deferral was not legal and they were required to have a ferry permit to fly.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 803552 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200809 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : charter |
| Make Model Name | Canadair/Bombardier Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | ground : maintenance ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 803552 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : charter |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 803555 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper documentation maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other Other |
| Factors | |
| Maintenance | contributing factor : briefing performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements performance deficiency : fault isolation performance deficiency : logbook entry |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
On completion of a part 135 leg; I was informed by maintenance control that a maintenance item; that was deferred at the end of the previous leg; should not have been conducted without a ferry permit. Maintenance control failed to recognize that the current confign was not MEL'able; and that the aircraft needed a ferry permit. Supplemental information from acn 803555: we were notified that a dmi that we had talked to maintenance about; and that we were released with; was not legal. Possibly a lack of understanding between what the crew was seeing and what maintenance was understanding.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER COMPLETION OF A PART 135 FLIGHT IN A CL-300 (BD-100-1A10); TWO PILOTS ARE INFORMED BY MAINT CONTROL THE PREVIOUS MAINT DEFERRAL WAS NOT LEGAL AND THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FERRY PERMIT TO FLY.
Narrative: ON COMPLETION OF A PART 135 LEG; I WAS INFORMED BY MAINT CTL THAT A MAINT ITEM; THAT WAS DEFERRED AT THE END OF THE PREVIOUS LEG; SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED WITHOUT A FERRY PERMIT. MAINT CTL FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CURRENT CONFIGN WAS NOT MEL'ABLE; AND THAT THE ACFT NEEDED A FERRY PERMIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 803555: WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT A DMI THAT WE HAD TALKED TO MAINT ABOUT; AND THAT WE WERE RELEASED WITH; WAS NOT LEGAL. POSSIBLY A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING BTWN WHAT THE CREW WAS SEEING AND WHAT MAINT WAS UNDERSTANDING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.