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|Locale Reference||atc facility : grb.tracon|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : radar|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Experience||controller radar : 12|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|ATC Facility||procedure or policy : grb.fss|
This report is about lack of preparations for a special event. The grb TRACON handles traffic arriving from the north. Mke took over the osh airport from ZAU. It is shocking to me how unprepared and unorganized the traffic flow is. Local FAA office staff ignored suggestions by controllers; and kept controllers out of LOA meetings. Handoffs; frequency assignments; and rtes are unclr. Ask 3 controllers a question -- get 3 answers. Sniping between facilities is at an unprecedented level. The users of the system are being delayed; and assigned rtes that add miles and frustration to their flts. If local management and staff does not want grb and mke controllers involved in procedure planning; they must go to washington or a regional office to get planning and procedure people involved. A couple of examples of poor service; aircraft landing atw or mtw from the south are at 7000 ft 7 mi from the airport. Aircraft converging over the mtw area that are inbound to atw; grb and overflt traffic. Someone will have an operational error there; it's just a matter of time. Many other situations like these exist. The mtw situation adds miles to flight rtes; and creates torment for the radar controller. Whoever created this LOA and agreed to it could not possibly understand the ATC job function.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GRB CTLR VOICED CONCERN REGARDING FACILITY PREPLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT; COMMENTING THAT CTLR INPUT WAS LACKING.
Narrative: THIS RPT IS ABOUT LACK OF PREPARATIONS FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. THE GRB TRACON HANDLES TFC ARRIVING FROM THE N. MKE TOOK OVER THE OSH ARPT FROM ZAU. IT IS SHOCKING TO ME HOW UNPREPARED AND UNORGANIZED THE TFC FLOW IS. LCL FAA OFFICE STAFF IGNORED SUGGESTIONS BY CTLRS; AND KEPT CTLRS OUT OF LOA MEETINGS. HDOFS; FREQ ASSIGNMENTS; AND RTES ARE UNCLR. ASK 3 CTLRS A QUESTION -- GET 3 ANSWERS. SNIPING BTWN FACILITIES IS AT AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL. THE USERS OF THE SYS ARE BEING DELAYED; AND ASSIGNED RTES THAT ADD MILES AND FRUSTRATION TO THEIR FLTS. IF LCL MGMNT AND STAFF DOES NOT WANT GRB AND MKE CTLRS INVOLVED IN PROC PLANNING; THEY MUST GO TO WASHINGTON OR A REGIONAL OFFICE TO GET PLANNING AND PROC PEOPLE INVOLVED. A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF POOR SVC; ACFT LNDG ATW OR MTW FROM THE S ARE AT 7000 FT 7 MI FROM THE ARPT. ACFT CONVERGING OVER THE MTW AREA THAT ARE INBOUND TO ATW; GRB AND OVERFLT TFC. SOMEONE WILL HAVE AN OPERROR THERE; IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME. MANY OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THESE EXIST. THE MTW SITUATION ADDS MILES TO FLT RTES; AND CREATES TORMENT FOR THE RADAR CTLR. WHOEVER CREATED THIS LOA AND AGREED TO IT COULD NOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THE ATC JOB FUNCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.