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An LR55 crew put 13000 ft instead of 1300 ft in the altitude alerter on the teb dalton departure. First officer was new to aircraft and this was a training flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 785236 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200805 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : dalton |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 826 flight time type : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 785236 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 2100 |
| ASRS Report | 784978 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : became reoriented |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were departing teb airport conducting a training flight for me a new copilot with the company. We were assigned the dalton departure which the crew had never done before. During the departure the crew misread the departure and dialed 13000 ft instead of 1300 ft. I checked in with departure and advised them we were climbing to 13000 ft. ATC advised us of our altitude deviation and we quickly descended.supplemental information from acn 784978: the copilot in training has only 2 hours in the airplane which left the captain kind of overwhelmed with duties. To prevent this from happening again we should have a policy in place to not do training flts out of congested airports until the copilot is further along in training. Departures from these types of airports are demanding as it is and with training a new person in this environment there is no teamwork.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LR55 CREW PUT 13000 FT INSTEAD OF 1300 FT IN THE ALT ALERTER ON THE TEB DALTON DEP. FO WAS NEW TO ACFT AND THIS WAS A TRAINING FLT.
Narrative: WE WERE DEPARTING TEB ARPT CONDUCTING A TRAINING FLT FOR ME A NEW COPLT WITH THE COMPANY. WE WERE ASSIGNED THE DALTON DEP WHICH THE CREW HAD NEVER DONE BEFORE. DURING THE DEP THE CREW MISREAD THE DEP AND DIALED 13000 FT INSTEAD OF 1300 FT. I CHECKED IN WITH DEP AND ADVISED THEM WE WERE CLBING TO 13000 FT. ATC ADVISED US OF OUR ALTITUDE DEV AND WE QUICKLY DSNDED.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 784978: THE COPLT IN TRAINING HAS ONLY 2 HRS IN THE AIRPLANE WHICH LEFT THE CAPT KIND OF OVERWHELMED WITH DUTIES. TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE TO NOT DO TRAINING FLTS OUT OF CONGESTED ARPTS UNTIL THE COPLT IS FURTHER ALONG IN TRAINING. DEPS FROM THESE TYPES OF ARPTS ARE DEMANDING AS IT IS AND WITH TRAINING A NEW PERSON IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THERE IS NO TEAMWORK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.