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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 784382 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200804 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : cindi |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citationjet C525/C526 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : ravnn |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 11800 flight time type : 380 |
| ASRS Report | 784382 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying into mtn by ric.ravnn 2 STAR and when passing zakto intersection I was on a heading of 299 degrees and potomac approach told me to maintain 2000 ft until established on the localizer 33 approach; the GS was out; and by staying on the heading after zakto; did not intercept to localizer outside of cindi. The approach came out ok; but it was not the proper way to do it. I should have asked my copilot to request a radar vector to intercept or if that wasn't available; request an IAF so that I would have more time to get set up for the approach. When things don't seem right; it would be wise to ask questions instead of trying to make it work.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C525 PLT COMPLETES APCH SUCCESSFULLY AFTER INTERCEPTING THE LOCALIZER INSIDE FAF ON GS OUT LOCALIZER APCH.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING INTO MTN BY RIC.RAVNN 2 STAR AND WHEN PASSING ZAKTO INTXN I WAS ON A HDG OF 299 DEGS AND POTOMAC APCH TOLD ME TO MAINTAIN 2000 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC 33 APCH; THE GS WAS OUT; AND BY STAYING ON THE HDG AFTER ZAKTO; DID NOT INTERCEPT TO LOC OUTSIDE OF CINDI. THE APCH CAME OUT OK; BUT IT WAS NOT THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MY COPLT TO REQUEST A RADAR VECTOR TO INTERCEPT OR IF THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE; REQUEST AN IAF SO THAT I WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO GET SET UP FOR THE APCH. WHEN THINGS DON'T SEEM RIGHT; IT WOULD BE WISE TO ASK QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.