A saab 340B with a full passenger load was also aft cg loaded with freight. Crew flew approach with ...

Narrative:

Airplane was pitch sensitive on landing in ZZZ1. We landed with reduced flap and a flat profile and higher airspeed. I requested a weight off all cargo and bags and it came to 1273 pounds. It should have been 1080 pounds. In addition; 209 pounds of bags had been taken off on the ramp in ZZZ due to the tail stand being stuck in the compacted snow. If this had not happened; we would have been aft of the aft center of gravity limit. Maybe experienced ramp crew from ZZZ1 could provide different and/or improved ways of organizing bags and cargo. These are both busy stations. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that because the tail stand could not be removed; the suggestion that freight and bags be removed resulted in that material not getting back on the aircraft after the tail stand was taken from the ice. Had that material been put back on the aircraft the cg limits would have been exceeded. As it was; the aircraft remained within limits but on the cg edge. The air carrier revealed after the fact that the method of relaying the allowable freight and baggage quantity was using numbers of containers instead of the actual container weight. Since this event; actual weight is now required to be entered as the aircraft is being loaded so that it remains within limits.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A SAAB 340B WITH A FULL PAX LOAD WAS ALSO AFT CG LOADED WITH FREIGHT. CREW FLEW APCH WITH LESS FLAPS FOR LNDG BECAUSE OF PITCH SENSITIVITY AT SLOW SPD.

Narrative: AIRPLANE WAS PITCH SENSITIVE ON LNDG IN ZZZ1. WE LANDED WITH REDUCED FLAP AND A FLAT PROFILE AND HIGHER AIRSPD. I REQUESTED A WT OFF ALL CARGO AND BAGS AND IT CAME TO 1273 LBS. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 1080 LBS. IN ADDITION; 209 LBS OF BAGS HAD BEEN TAKEN OFF ON THE RAMP IN ZZZ DUE TO THE TAIL STAND BEING STUCK IN THE COMPACTED SNOW. IF THIS HAD NOT HAPPENED; WE WOULD HAVE BEEN AFT OF THE AFT CTR OF GRAVITY LIMIT. MAYBE EXPERIENCED RAMP CREW FROM ZZZ1 COULD PROVIDE DIFFERENT AND/OR IMPROVED WAYS OF ORGANIZING BAGS AND CARGO. THESE ARE BOTH BUSY STATIONS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: REPORTER STATED THAT BECAUSE THE TAIL STAND COULD NOT BE REMOVED; THE SUGGESTION THAT FREIGHT AND BAGS BE REMOVED RESULTED IN THAT MATERIAL NOT GETTING BACK ON THE ACFT AFTER THE TAIL STAND WAS TAKEN FROM THE ICE. HAD THAT MATERIAL BEEN PUT BACK ON THE ACFT THE CG LIMITS WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCEEDED. AS IT WAS; THE ACFT REMAINED WITHIN LIMITS BUT ON THE CG EDGE. THE ACR REVEALED AFTER THE FACT THAT THE METHOD OF RELAYING THE ALLOWABLE FREIGHT AND BAGGAGE QUANTITY WAS USING NUMBERS OF CONTAINERS INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL CONTAINER WEIGHT. SINCE THIS EVENT; ACTUAL WEIGHT IS NOW REQUIRED TO BE ENTERED AS THE ACFT IS BEING LOADED SO THAT IT REMAINS WITHIN LIMITS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Attributes
ACN	779109
Time
Date	200803
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	SF 340B
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	779109
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Company

A saab 340B with a full passenger load was also aft cg loaded with freight. Crew flew approach with less flaps for landing because of pitch sensitivity at slow speed.