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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 771431 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200801 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B777-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 771431 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After heated conversation about when you are supposed to switch to ground after the tower has handed you off and you will be crossing an active runway; an MD80 was coming across runway 25R. I made the comment that this aircraft had the right-of-way because he was clearing an active runway. The captain said 'he does not have the right-of-way' and was attempting to beat the other aircraft or at least try to intimidate the other aircraft into giving way to us. I remember the involuntary action of pushing back into my seat because I thought we were going to collide with the other aircraft. I also have the vivid memory of seeing the relief first officer moving back at the same time. The ground controller did; during this game of chicken; give us the instruction to give way to the MD80. A call that was missed due to the captain's insistence that we had the right-of-way. After the delay to follow; the rest was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 FO REPORTS AGGRESSIVE TAXIING BY HIS CAPT AT LAX.
Narrative: AFTER HEATED CONVERSATION ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SWITCH TO GND AFTER THE TWR HAS HANDED YOU OFF AND YOU WILL BE XING AN ACTIVE RWY; AN MD80 WAS COMING ACROSS RWY 25R. I MADE THE COMMENT THAT THIS ACFT HAD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BECAUSE HE WAS CLRING AN ACTIVE RWY. THE CAPT SAID 'HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY' AND WAS ATTEMPTING TO BEAT THE OTHER ACFT OR AT LEAST TRY TO INTIMIDATE THE OTHER ACFT INTO GIVING WAY TO US. I REMEMBER THE INVOLUNTARY ACTION OF PUSHING BACK INTO MY SEAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO COLLIDE WITH THE OTHER ACFT. I ALSO HAVE THE VIVID MEMORY OF SEEING THE RELIEF FO MOVING BACK AT THE SAME TIME. THE GND CTLR DID; DURING THIS GAME OF CHICKEN; GIVE US THE INSTRUCTION TO GIVE WAY TO THE MD80. A CALL THAT WAS MISSED DUE TO THE CAPT'S INSISTENCE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AFTER THE DELAY TO FOLLOW; THE REST WAS UNEVENTFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.