<< >> NASA ASRS Report 763916, December 2007

Flight of five privately owned military trainer aircraft make formation overhead arrival to an uncontrolled field to the consternation of cessna traffic in the pattern.

Attributes
ACN	763916
Time
Date	200712
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : szp.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 1500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 1200
ASRS Report	763916
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Environmental Factor Airport Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

A flight of 5 on initial to runway 22 at szp at 1500 ft made left break 5 second interval for landing. Upon all aircraft on downwind; dash 4 called high wing aircraft between 3 and 4; say intentions. High wing responded 'I'll continue downwind and allow your flight to land.' as flight lead; all radio calls for position were reported and no response was heard from any aircraft. In addition; after debriefing the flight; all pilots and 2 pilots in rear seats confirmed that no one knew the plane was in the pattern; all flight members were monitoring CTAF. Telephone calls with pilot of high wing stated that we had no right to fly formation at his airport; and said it was not his job to deconflict any aircraft not in his pattern.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT OF FIVE PRIVATELY OWNED MILITARY TRAINER ACFT MAKE FORMATION OVERHEAD ARRIVAL TO AN UNCONTROLLED FIELD TO THE CONSTERNATION OF CESSNA TRAFFIC IN THE PATTERN.

Narrative: A FLT OF 5 ON INITIAL TO RWY 22 AT SZP AT 1500 FT MADE L BREAK 5 SECOND INTERVAL FOR LNDG. UPON ALL ACFT ON DOWNWIND; DASH 4 CALLED HIGH WING ACFT BTWN 3 AND 4; SAY INTENTIONS. HIGH WING RESPONDED 'I'LL CONTINUE DOWNWIND AND ALLOW YOUR FLT TO LAND.' AS FLT LEAD; ALL RADIO CALLS FOR POS WERE RPTED AND NO RESPONSE WAS HEARD FROM ANY ACFT. IN ADDITION; AFTER DEBRIEFING THE FLT; ALL PLTS AND 2 PLTS IN REAR SEATS CONFIRMED THAT NO ONE KNEW THE PLANE WAS IN THE PATTERN; ALL FLT MEMBERS WERE MONITORING CTAF. TELEPHONE CALLS WITH PLT OF HIGH WING STATED THAT WE HAD NO RIGHT TO FLY FORMATION AT HIS ARPT; AND SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO DECONFLICT ANY ACFT NOT IN HIS PATTERN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.