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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : fll.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Commercial Fixed Wing|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||ground : taxi|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
ATC Human Performance
We were cleared to taxi from pushback position at the terminal to runway 9L. There was no direction given so the captain briefed he would taxi north on taxiway D then west on taxiway B to runway 9L. As we started moving; ground control told us to taxi onto and down runway 31 to taxiway B to runway 9L. We commented to each other that fll is where company X had its last runway incursion; and we found it unfathomable that ground control was so lax and using active runways to taxi aircraft when an incident had occurred so recently. Additionally; the day prior when we landed at fll and were taxiing to parking; there were ground delays for departures due to thunderstorms. We heard ground ask an aircraft to shut down on runway 13 and wait 20 or so mins for their release. We heard the aircraft refuse this clearance and ask to be taxied off the runway to shut down and hold. I think there is a real problem at fll with ground control and their lax attitude about using runways as txwys and they are setting someone else up for a runway incursion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING TAXI PROCS AT FLL; I.E. ATC USING RWY 31 AS A TXWY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI FROM PUSHBACK POS AT THE TERMINAL TO RWY 9L. THERE WAS NO DIRECTION GIVEN SO THE CAPT BRIEFED HE WOULD TAXI N ON TXWY D THEN W ON TXWY B TO RWY 9L. AS WE STARTED MOVING; GND CTL TOLD US TO TAXI ONTO AND DOWN RWY 31 TO TXWY B TO RWY 9L. WE COMMENTED TO EACH OTHER THAT FLL IS WHERE COMPANY X HAD ITS LAST RWY INCURSION; AND WE FOUND IT UNFATHOMABLE THAT GND CTL WAS SO LAX AND USING ACTIVE RWYS TO TAXI ACFT WHEN AN INCIDENT HAD OCCURRED SO RECENTLY. ADDITIONALLY; THE DAY PRIOR WHEN WE LANDED AT FLL AND WERE TAXIING TO PARKING; THERE WERE GND DELAYS FOR DEPS DUE TO TSTMS. WE HEARD GND ASK AN ACFT TO SHUT DOWN ON RWY 13 AND WAIT 20 OR SO MINS FOR THEIR RELEASE. WE HEARD THE ACFT REFUSE THIS CLRNC AND ASK TO BE TAXIED OFF THE RWY TO SHUT DOWN AND HOLD. I THINK THERE IS A REAL PROB AT FLL WITH GND CTL AND THEIR LAX ATTITUDE ABOUT USING RWYS AS TXWYS AND THEY ARE SETTING SOMEONE ELSE UP FOR A RWY INCURSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.