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ZMA controller expressed concern regarding ZMA/agency training policy and procedures.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 751377 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200708 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zma.artcc |
| State Reference | FL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Flight Phase | ground other : under tow |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 22 controller non radar : 22 controller radar : 21 controller supervisory : 11 |
| ASRS Report | 751377 |
| Events | |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zma.artcc |
Narrative:
In an effort to certify controllers quickly; the FAA is trying different training scenarios. It is my understanding that ZMA is 1 of 4 ctrs that is combining the radar associate and radar training. This enables developmentals to certify on 2 radar associate position and then train on the radar for those position. In the area 2 coastal specialty an individual who has been certified on 2 radar associate position is now training on a radar position for which they do not have radar associate certification. It's like learning to walk before you crawl. Additionally; it is my understanding that the hours spent training on radar are being logged on the radar associate position. I expect this is to get the individual more exposure before actually logging hours on the radar. I have to question the legality of this training. Also; it appears the FAA is aware that this new type of training is not working and are; therefore; circumnavigating its intent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZMA CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING ZMA/AGENCY TRAINING POLICY AND PROCS.
Narrative: IN AN EFFORT TO CERTIFY CTLRS QUICKLY; THE FAA IS TRYING DIFFERENT TRAINING SCENARIOS. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ZMA IS 1 OF 4 CTRS THAT IS COMBINING THE RADAR ASSOCIATE AND RADAR TRAINING. THIS ENABLES DEVELOPMENTALS TO CERTIFY ON 2 RADAR ASSOCIATE POS AND THEN TRAIN ON THE RADAR FOR THOSE POS. IN THE AREA 2 COASTAL SPECIALTY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN CERTIFIED ON 2 RADAR ASSOCIATE POS IS NOW TRAINING ON A RADAR POS FOR WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE RADAR ASSOCIATE CERTIFICATION. IT'S LIKE LEARNING TO WALK BEFORE YOU CRAWL. ADDITIONALLY; IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HRS SPENT TRAINING ON RADAR ARE BEING LOGGED ON THE RADAR ASSOCIATE POS. I EXPECT THIS IS TO GET THE INDIVIDUAL MORE EXPOSURE BEFORE ACTUALLY LOGGING HRS ON THE RADAR. I HAVE TO QUESTION THE LEGALITY OF THIS TRAINING. ALSO; IT APPEARS THE FAA IS AWARE THAT THIS NEW TYPE OF TRAINING IS NOT WORKING AND ARE; THEREFORE; CIRCUMNAVIGATING ITS INTENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.