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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : eddf.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||B747-400|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 100|
flight time total : 15000
flight time type : 150
|Anomaly||aircraft equipment problem : less severe|
conflict : ground less severe
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
ATC Human Performance
Flight Crew Human Performance
Ground taxi after landing via taxiway C; taxiway B; hold short spot X. This places the plane in the way for safe lndgs at the threshold of runway 25R. Ground control will not move us out of the way of landing traffic. Arriving planes go around. Typical eddf poor ATC. See previous report with eddf ground and ramp control as well as company operations refusing a gate to deplane passenger after encountering a right wing anti-ice valve opening on taxi out; with irregular checklists requiring us to shut off manifold air to 2 packs. Cabin temperature climbed to 100 degrees in less than 10 mins. Had to give 2-MIN warning of declaring emergency deplaning possibly with slides if necessary; then ATC provided parking. Eddf ATC is highly incompetent and arrogant; in my experiences.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B747-400 CAPT REPORTS A CONFLICT WITH EDDF GND CTL WHILE TAXIING TO GATE AFTER ARRIVAL. RPTR ALSO CITES PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED ISSUES AT THIS SAME ARPT.
Narrative: GND TAXI AFTER LNDG VIA TXWY C; TXWY B; HOLD SHORT SPOT X. THIS PLACES THE PLANE IN THE WAY FOR SAFE LNDGS AT THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 25R. GND CTL WILL NOT MOVE US OUT OF THE WAY OF LNDG TFC. ARRIVING PLANES GO AROUND. TYPICAL EDDF POOR ATC. SEE PREVIOUS REPORT WITH EDDF GND AND RAMP CTL AS WELL AS COMPANY OPS REFUSING A GATE TO DEPLANE PAX AFTER ENCOUNTERING A R WING ANTI-ICE VALVE OPENING ON TAXI OUT; WITH IRREGULAR CHKLISTS REQUIRING US TO SHUT OFF MANIFOLD AIR TO 2 PACKS. CABIN TEMP CLBED TO 100 DEGS IN LESS THAN 10 MINS. HAD TO GIVE 2-MIN WARNING OF DECLARING EMER DEPLANING POSSIBLY WITH SLIDES IF NECESSARY; THEN ATC PROVIDED PARKING. EDDF ATC IS HIGHLY INCOMPETENT AND ARROGANT; IN MY EXPERIENCES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.