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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 744658 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200707 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lee.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lee.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lee.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 744658 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 20 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
At 3 NM ssw of lee; local cleared me to enter a right downwind from a 45 degree entry for runway 13. Local also advised that I was to follow another cherokee; which was on a right crosswind. I advised local at that point that I was looking for the traffic. At 1 1/2 NM ssw of runway 13; I saw the cherokee at my 2 O'clock position; slightly below my altitude on a very wide downwind. I then climbed slightly to increase the distance between the 2 of us. I then turned to enter downwind behind the cherokee. I believe the local controller had provided proper separation; but did not realize the other aircraft would fly a downwind that wide. If he had flown a normal sized pattern; the near miss would not have happened.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 PLT EXPERIENCED A NMAC WHILE ENTERING VFR TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: AT 3 NM SSW OF LEE; LCL CLRED ME TO ENTER A R DOWNWIND FROM A 45 DEG ENTRY FOR RWY 13. LCL ALSO ADVISED THAT I WAS TO FOLLOW ANOTHER CHEROKEE; WHICH WAS ON A R XWIND. I ADVISED LCL AT THAT POINT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE TFC. AT 1 1/2 NM SSW OF RWY 13; I SAW THE CHEROKEE AT MY 2 O'CLOCK POS; SLIGHTLY BELOW MY ALT ON A VERY WIDE DOWNWIND. I THEN CLBED SLIGHTLY TO INCREASE THE DISTANCE BTWN THE 2 OF US. I THEN TURNED TO ENTER DOWNWIND BEHIND THE CHEROKEE. I BELIEVE THE LCL CTLR HAD PROVIDED PROPER SEPARATION; BUT DID NOT REALIZE THE OTHER ACFT WOULD FLY A DOWNWIND THAT WIDE. IF HE HAD FLOWN A NORMAL SIZED PATTERN; THE NEAR MISS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.