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A falcon 900 on the teb 5 departure was told by ATC the initial heading after reaching 1500 ft was 290 degree contradicting the teb 5 chart heading of 280 degrees.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 732727 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200702 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 732727 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After takeoff on runway 24 at teb we climbed to 1500 ft and turned to the heading 280 degrees as per the teb 5 departure SID. While on the heading of 280 degrees the controller said to fly 290 degrees and made reference that 290 degrees was the heading on the SID. I did not question his instructions or comment due to being in the departure phase of flight. We flew the teb 5 departure as published. No infraction or conflict occurred.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he has been flying out of teb for 10 yrs and ATC's comment about the 290 degree heading required confused him. He decided not to say anything because it was not the time nor place to become argumentative. Instead given the controller's tone; he felt nothing would come of this event and decided to simply file a report and let the controller's comment pass.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FALCON 900 ON THE TEB 5 DEP WAS TOLD BY ATC THE INITIAL HEADING AFTER REACHING 1500 FT WAS 290 DEG CONTRADICTING THE TEB 5 CHART HEADING OF 280 DEGS.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF ON RWY 24 AT TEB WE CLBED TO 1500 FT AND TURNED TO THE HEADING 280 DEGS AS PER THE TEB 5 DEP SID. WHILE ON THE HEADING OF 280 DEGS THE CTLR SAID TO FLY 290 DEGS AND MADE REFERENCE THAT 290 DEGS WAS THE HEADING ON THE SID. I DID NOT QUESTION HIS INSTRUCTIONS OR COMMENT DUE TO BEING IN THE DEP PHASE OF FLT. WE FLEW THE TEB 5 DEP AS PUBLISHED. NO INFRACTION OR CONFLICT OCCURRED.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE HAS BEEN FLYING OUT OF TEB FOR 10 YRS AND ATC'S COMMENT ABOUT THE 290 DEG HEADING REQUIRED CONFUSED HIM. HE DECIDED NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE TIME NOR PLACE TO BECOME ARGUMENTATIVE. INSTEAD GIVEN THE CTLR'S TONE; HE FELT NOTHING WOULD COME OF THIS EVENT AND DECIDED TO SIMPLY FILE A RPT AND LET THE CTLR'S COMMENT PASS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.