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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 725044 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200701 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : nct.tracon tower : cle.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28r |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 725044 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed missed approach |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On missed approach; norcal said to expect runway 28L. On downwind 4000 ft 180 knots switched second controller -- given turn to 310 to intercept runway 28R; descent to 3000 ft. We had to scramble to configure and switch runways. We were 1 and a half dots high for runway 28L. 3 thoughts 1) why lack of coordination between controllers? 2) no idea of sequence -- lots of aircraft in area. 3) gca box pattern very tight. Given sfo is in top 5 for unstabilized apches (we weren't) we would like better handling and coordination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ON RETURN VECTOR AFTER MISSED APCH TO SFO; FLT CREW EXPERIENCED LATE RWY CHANGE.
Narrative: ON MISSED APCH; NORCAL SAID TO EXPECT RWY 28L. ON DOWNWIND 4000 FT 180 KNOTS SWITCHED SECOND CTLR -- GIVEN TURN TO 310 TO INTERCEPT RWY 28R; DSCNT TO 3000 FT. WE HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO CONFIGURE AND SWITCH RWYS. WE WERE 1 AND A HALF DOTS HIGH FOR RWY 28L. 3 THOUGHTS 1) WHY LACK OF COORDINATION BETWEEN CTLRS? 2) NO IDEA OF SEQUENCE -- LOTS OF ACFT IN AREA. 3) GCA BOX PATTERN VERY TIGHT. GIVEN SFO IS IN TOP 5 FOR UNSTABILIZED APCHES (WE WEREN'T) WE WOULD LIKE BETTER HANDLING AND COORDINATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.