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Phl controller issues published holding instructions at mazie intersection to aircraft; expecting they will use the holding pattern depicted on the jaike arrival. Instead they use the holding pattern depicted on the low altitude chart which is entirely different.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 708089 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : phl.tracon |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : holding |
| Route In Use | arrival : holding pattern |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Experience | controller radar : 16 |
| ASRS Report | 708089 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Situations | |
| Chart | star : jaike |
Narrative:
While working north high at phl; I instructed 2 GA aircraft to hold at mazie at 13000 ft and 12000 ft; left turns as published. I first asked them if they had the holding procedures; they both said yes. I was unaware that there was an old holding pattern at mazie that was used in previous years. It is still charted but notamed not in use. One aircraft turned into a parachute jump zone while the other turned into a separate holding pattern for lga arrs. If the charted holding pattern is not in use and has a NOTAM affiliated with it; it should be taken off the charts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHL CTLR ISSUES PUBLISHED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS AT MAZIE INTXN TO ACFT; EXPECTING THEY WILL USE THE HOLDING PATTERN DEPICTED ON THE JAIKE ARR. INSTEAD THEY USE THE HOLDING PATTERN DEPICTED ON THE LOW ALT CHART WHICH IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
Narrative: WHILE WORKING NORTH HIGH AT PHL; I INSTRUCTED 2 GA ACFT TO HOLD AT MAZIE AT 13000 FT AND 12000 FT; L TURNS AS PUBLISHED. I FIRST ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD THE HOLDING PROCS; THEY BOTH SAID YES. I WAS UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS AN OLD HOLDING PATTERN AT MAZIE THAT WAS USED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. IT IS STILL CHARTED BUT NOTAMED NOT IN USE. ONE ACFT TURNED INTO A PARACHUTE JUMP ZONE WHILE THE OTHER TURNED INTO A SEPARATE HOLDING PATTERN FOR LGA ARRS. IF THE CHARTED HOLDING PATTERN IS NOT IN USE AND HAS A NOTAM AFFILIATED WITH IT; IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE CHARTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.