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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 707899 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : y90.tracon |
| State Reference | CT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7400 msl bound upper : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : y90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Caravan 1 208A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : y90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Super King Air 350 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 22 controller supervisory : 9 controller time certified in position1 : 16 controller time certified in position2 : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 707899 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was working an en route/arrival sector at Y90 and had several wbound en route aircraft and several bdl arrs under my control. The C208 was at 8000 ft wbound and I needed to get him to 6000 ft to comply with the LOA with new york approach. I issued the C208 descent to 6000 ft. The B350 was 5 mi behind the C208 and faster; and was required to be at 8000 ft before handoff to new york by LOA. The C208 left 8000 ft and I expected it to descend at least half as fast as the B350. About 20 seconds later; I descended the B350 from 10000 ft to 8000 ft. After making numerous xmissions to other aircraft; the conflict alert activated; and I instructed the C208 to expedite descent because he was only at 7400 ft. The C208 had only descended 600 ft in 2 mins; while the B350 descended nearly 2000 ft in about 1 min 38 seconds. Had the pilot of the C208 descended at a reasonable rate; this would not have occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Y90 CTLR HAS OPERROR WHEN C208 DSNDS AT A SLOWER RATE THAN A B350.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING AN ENRTE/ARR SECTOR AT Y90 AND HAD SEVERAL WBOUND ENRTE ACFT AND SEVERAL BDL ARRS UNDER MY CTL. THE C208 WAS AT 8000 FT WBOUND AND I NEEDED TO GET HIM TO 6000 FT TO COMPLY WITH THE LOA WITH NEW YORK APCH. I ISSUED THE C208 DSCNT TO 6000 FT. THE B350 WAS 5 MI BEHIND THE C208 AND FASTER; AND WAS REQUIRED TO BE AT 8000 FT BEFORE HDOF TO NEW YORK BY LOA. THE C208 LEFT 8000 FT AND I EXPECTED IT TO DSND AT LEAST HALF AS FAST AS THE B350. ABOUT 20 SECONDS LATER; I DSNDED THE B350 FROM 10000 FT TO 8000 FT. AFTER MAKING NUMEROUS XMISSIONS TO OTHER ACFT; THE CONFLICT ALERT ACTIVATED; AND I INSTRUCTED THE C208 TO EXPEDITE DSCNT BECAUSE HE WAS ONLY AT 7400 FT. THE C208 HAD ONLY DSNDED 600 FT IN 2 MINS; WHILE THE B350 DSNDED NEARLY 2000 FT IN ABOUT 1 MIN 38 SECONDS. HAD THE PLT OF THE C208 DSNDED AT A REASONABLE RATE; THIS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.