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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : isz.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||landing : roll|
|Route In Use||approach : traffic pattern|
approach : visual
|Function||instruction : trainee|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 60|
flight time total : 120
flight time type : 120
|Function||instruction : instructor|
oversight : pic
|Anomaly||aircraft equipment problem : critical|
excursion : runway
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
other flight crewb
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
Flight Crew Human Performance
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
The AWOS at isz was OTS but view of the wind sock and WX at nearby luk was consistent with a strong wind from the northeast. Isz traffic was using runway 6; and I informed the CFI that I would be doing a left downwind runway 6 for landing. She agreed; but then said we were going to do a simulated engine out and express interest if we could make it to the airport from our present position. She instructed me to pull the power out; which I did; and then glided at vx speed to runway 24. There was traffic 3 mi out for runway 6; while we were on a 1 mi final for runway 24. The CFI told the other aircraft that we would exit the runway by the time they arrived. As we approached the runway; it became apparent to me that we were not flying a stabilized approach due to the massive tailwind. About 1/2 way down runway 24; I told the CFI 'we are not going to make it.' after I told her that; she took the controls and slipped the airplane down from about 50 ft AGL to just above the runway surface where we entered ground effect exclaiming that she 'was going to help me get it down.' our airspeed was approximately 15 KTS too fast as we touched down; and both of us applied maximum brake pressure. However; there was not enough runway left for us to stop as we skidded off the end blowing both tires. The traffic on final for runway 6 went around and the CFI told me to shut down the airplane. Neither of us were hurt.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT AND INSTRUCTOR HAVE A RWY EXCURSION AT ISZ.
Narrative: THE AWOS AT ISZ WAS OTS BUT VIEW OF THE WIND SOCK AND WX AT NEARBY LUK WAS CONSISTENT WITH A STRONG WIND FROM THE NE. ISZ TFC WAS USING RWY 6; AND I INFORMED THE CFI THAT I WOULD BE DOING A L DOWNWIND RWY 6 FOR LNDG. SHE AGREED; BUT THEN SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO A SIMULATED ENG OUT AND EXPRESS INTEREST IF WE COULD MAKE IT TO THE ARPT FROM OUR PRESENT POS. SHE INSTRUCTED ME TO PULL THE PWR OUT; WHICH I DID; AND THEN GLIDED AT VX SPD TO RWY 24. THERE WAS TFC 3 MI OUT FOR RWY 6; WHILE WE WERE ON A 1 MI FINAL FOR RWY 24. THE CFI TOLD THE OTHER ACFT THAT WE WOULD EXIT THE RWY BY THE TIME THEY ARRIVED. AS WE APCHED THE RWY; IT BECAME APPARENT TO ME THAT WE WERE NOT FLYING A STABILIZED APCH DUE TO THE MASSIVE TAILWIND. ABOUT 1/2 WAY DOWN RWY 24; I TOLD THE CFI 'WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.' AFTER I TOLD HER THAT; SHE TOOK THE CTLS AND SLIPPED THE AIRPLANE DOWN FROM ABOUT 50 FT AGL TO JUST ABOVE THE RWY SURFACE WHERE WE ENTERED GND EFFECT EXCLAIMING THAT SHE 'WAS GOING TO HELP ME GET IT DOWN.' OUR AIRSPD WAS APPROX 15 KTS TOO FAST AS WE TOUCHED DOWN; AND BOTH OF US APPLIED MAX BRAKE PRESSURE. HOWEVER; THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH RWY LEFT FOR US TO STOP AS WE SKIDDED OFF THE END BLOWING BOTH TIRES. THE TFC ON FINAL FOR RWY 6 WENT AROUND AND THE CFI TOLD ME TO SHUT DOWN THE AIRPLANE. NEITHER OF US WERE HURT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.