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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 686698 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200602 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zjx.artcc |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 39600 msl bound upper : 42000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Gates Learjet Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 3 controller radar : 14 controller time certified in position1 : 1 controller time certified in position2 : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 686698 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 1400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
A non rvsm equipped aircraft; aircraft Y; was climbing to FL430. At about FL420 he advised he would not be able to make FL430 yet. He was then assigned a block altitude of FL410-FL430. Another aft that was rvsm equipped was at FL390 requesting FL410. I advised him of his traffic at FL420 and climbed him to FL400. I told him to expect higher when he was clear of his traffic. He advised he either had the traffic visually or on TCAS. The conflict alert activated so I advised the climbing aircraft to maintain his present altitude and he indicated that it was FL396. I then asked the non-rvsm to confirm that he was still level at FL420 since our data block only shows the assigned block altitude; and not the actual altitude. The non-rvsm aircraft said he was now level at FL410. I subsequently descended the rsvm aircraft to FL390 to re-establish standard non-rvsm separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZJX CTLR EXPERIENCED OPERROR AT FL400 BTWN RVSM AND NON RVSM ACFT WHEN 1 ACFT WAS ASSIGNED BLOCK ALTS FOR CLB AND DSNDED.
Narrative: A NON RVSM EQUIPPED ACFT; ACFT Y; WAS CLBING TO FL430. AT ABOUT FL420 HE ADVISED HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE FL430 YET. HE WAS THEN ASSIGNED A BLOCK ALT OF FL410-FL430. ANOTHER AFT THAT WAS RVSM EQUIPPED WAS AT FL390 REQUESTING FL410. I ADVISED HIM OF HIS TFC AT FL420 AND CLBED HIM TO FL400. I TOLD HIM TO EXPECT HIGHER WHEN HE WAS CLR OF HIS TFC. HE ADVISED HE EITHER HAD THE TFC VISUALLY OR ON TCAS. THE CONFLICT ALERT ACTIVATED SO I ADVISED THE CLBING ACFT TO MAINTAIN HIS PRESENT ALT AND HE INDICATED THAT IT WAS FL396. I THEN ASKED THE NON-RVSM TO CONFIRM THAT HE WAS STILL LEVEL AT FL420 SINCE OUR DATA BLOCK ONLY SHOWS THE ASSIGNED BLOCK ALT; AND NOT THE ACTUAL ALT. THE NON-RVSM ACFT SAID HE WAS NOW LEVEL AT FL410. I SUBSEQUENTLY DSNDED THE RSVM ACFT TO FL390 TO RE-ESTABLISH STANDARD NON-RVSM SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.