Check air person and student aboard LJ25 allow landing confign approach to stall practice to deteriorate to a complete stall. Recovery requires the loss of 8600 ft of altitude.

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Attributes
ACN	680772
Time
Date	200512
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : opf.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl single value : 15000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zma.artcc
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Learjet 25
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : enroute altitude change cruise : level
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 86 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 2445
ASRS Report	680772
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 86 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 2400
ASRS Report	680771
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : regained aircraft control
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

I was in the left seat on a practice check ride for the first officer. Block altitude assigned 14000-16000 ft. Set up for landing stall confign full flaps; gear down. First officer did not react to first indication of stall. No recovery was made and aircraft went to secondary stall. The wing dropped and I immediately went to full thrust and flaps 20 degrees. I was unable to hold assigned altitude. Wings rolled 90 degrees left and right; several times. Loss of 8600 ft before recovery was made. Contacted ZMA; requested return to opf. Action taken: sent first officer back to simulator to finish training. Note: never again.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CHK AIR PERSON AND STUDENT ABOARD LJ25 ALLOW LNDG CONFIGN APCH TO STALL PRACTICE TO DETERIORATE TO A COMPLETE STALL. RECOVERY REQUIRES THE LOSS OF 8600 FT OF ALT.

Narrative: I WAS IN THE L SEAT ON A PRACTICE CHK RIDE FOR THE FO. BLOCK ALT ASSIGNED 14000-16000 FT. SET UP FOR LNDG STALL CONFIGN FULL FLAPS; GEAR DOWN. FO DID NOT REACT TO FIRST INDICATION OF STALL. NO RECOVERY WAS MADE AND ACFT WENT TO SECONDARY STALL. THE WING DROPPED AND I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO FULL THRUST AND FLAPS 20 DEGS. I WAS UNABLE TO HOLD ASSIGNED ALT. WINGS ROLLED 90 DEGS L AND R; SEVERAL TIMES. LOSS OF 8600 FT BEFORE RECOVERY WAS MADE. CONTACTED ZMA; REQUESTED RETURN TO OPF. ACTION TAKEN: SENT FO BACK TO SIMULATOR TO FINISH TRAINING. NOTE: NEVER AGAIN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.