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A B737-200 flight crew is advised of an error in the takeoff weight and balance data after takeoff. Advised of more than 20 passenger on board than shown; which resulted in an additional payload of nearly 4000 pounds above that used for takeoff calculations.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 671561 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200509 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hnl.airport |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hnl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 671561 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Got a call from ramp just after airborne asking if we were airborne yet. After answering 'yes;' they said the passenger count was inaccurate. They relayed new numbers that included approximately 20 passenger. That increased our weight by nearly 4000 pounds. I asked the flight attendants to confirm the count and the crew numbers were accurate. Normally; I have not had the flight attendants back up the agent with the count.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-200 FLT CREW IS ADVISED OF AN ERROR IN THE TKOF WT AND BALANCE DATA AFTER TKOF. ADVISED OF MORE THAN 20 PAX ON BOARD THAN SHOWN; WHICH RESULTED IN AN ADDITIONAL PAYLOAD OF NEARLY 4000 LBS ABOVE THAT USED FOR TKOF CALCULATIONS.
Narrative: GOT A CALL FROM RAMP JUST AFTER AIRBORNE ASKING IF WE WERE AIRBORNE YET. AFTER ANSWERING 'YES;' THEY SAID THE PAX COUNT WAS INACCURATE. THEY RELAYED NEW NUMBERS THAT INCLUDED APPROX 20 PAX. THAT INCREASED OUR WT BY NEARLY 4000 LBS. I ASKED THE FLT ATTENDANTS TO CONFIRM THE COUNT AND THE CREW NUMBERS WERE ACCURATE. NORMALLY; I HAVE NOT HAD THE FLT ATTENDANTS BACK UP THE AGENT WITH THE COUNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.