<< >> NASA ASRS Report 670174, September 2005

Flight crew of A320 advised shortly after takeoff that their final weight and balance numbers were incorrect. Told to stand by for revisions that were never sent.

Attributes
ACN	670174
Time
Date	200509
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ewr.airport
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl single value : 8000
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon tower : mia.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A320
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
ASRS Report	670174
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : 3
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

On climb out we received a message from load planning that said the following: 'ramp has advised me they need to correct their final loading figures. Please stand by for revised weight.' this incident highlights a significant safety of flight issue with regard to proper weight and balance data. There appears (from our end) to be consistent communication difficulties between the ramp; load planning; and the aircraft. After the initial message; we never received any additional information regarding the load figures.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF A320 ADVISED SHORTLY AFTER TKOF THAT THEIR FINAL WT AND BAL NUMBERS WERE INCORRECT. TOLD TO STAND BY FOR REVISIONS THAT WERE NEVER SENT.

Narrative: ON CLBOUT WE RECEIVED A MSG FROM LOAD PLANNING THAT SAID THE FOLLOWING: 'RAMP HAS ADVISED ME THEY NEED TO CORRECT THEIR FINAL LOADING FIGURES. PLEASE STAND BY FOR REVISED WT.' THIS INCIDENT HIGHLIGHTS A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE WITH REGARD TO PROPER WT AND BAL DATA. THERE APPEARS (FROM OUR END) TO BE CONSISTENT COM DIFFICULTIES BETWEEN THE RAMP; LOAD PLANNING; AND THE ACFT. AFTER THE INITIAL MSG; WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL INFO REGARDING THE LOAD FIGURES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.