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An A319 was cleared into position and hold for 3 mins at mmun when an ATR passed over them landing on their holding runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 658280 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200505 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmun.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mmun.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mmun.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 19500 flight time type : 180 |
| ASRS Report | 658280 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical conflict : airborne critical ground encounters other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Both pilots understood the tower to clear us into position and hold. The first officer read back 'roger; cleared into position and hold' along with our call sign. We held in position approximately 3 mins when an ATR aircraft passed overhead as in a low pass. At that point the tower informed us that he had not authority/authorized us to taxi into position and hold. We explained that we head read back the clearance; but he repeated that he hadn't cleared us. When asked if he (tower) wanted us to clear the runway; he cleared us for takeoff. From the time we read back the 'position and hold' clearance until the time of the ATR passing over us; no english language xmissions were heard over the tower frequency; therefore; we weren't aware that another aircraft was approaching to land; and none were seen on approach as we 'took the runway.' neither the first officer nor I understand spanish very well; and so we were not 'in the loop' concerning the aircraft on approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A319 WAS CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD FOR 3 MINS AT MMUN WHEN AN ATR PASSED OVER THEM LNDG ON THEIR HOLDING RWY.
Narrative: BOTH PLTS UNDERSTOOD THE TWR TO CLR US INTO POS AND HOLD. THE FO READ BACK 'ROGER; CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD' ALONG WITH OUR CALL SIGN. WE HELD IN POS APPROX 3 MINS WHEN AN ATR ACFT PASSED OVERHEAD AS IN A LOW PASS. AT THAT POINT THE TWR INFORMED US THAT HE HAD NOT AUTH US TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD. WE EXPLAINED THAT WE HEAD READ BACK THE CLRNC; BUT HE REPEATED THAT HE HADN'T CLRED US. WHEN ASKED IF HE (TWR) WANTED US TO CLR THE RWY; HE CLRED US FOR TKOF. FROM THE TIME WE READ BACK THE 'POS AND HOLD' CLRNC UNTIL THE TIME OF THE ATR PASSING OVER US; NO ENGLISH LANGUAGE XMISSIONS WERE HEARD OVER THE TWR FREQ; THEREFORE; WE WEREN'T AWARE THAT ANOTHER ACFT WAS APCHING TO LAND; AND NONE WERE SEEN ON APCH AS WE 'TOOK THE RWY.' NEITHER THE FO NOR I UNDERSTAND SPANISH VERY WELL; AND SO WE WERE NOT 'IN THE LOOP' CONCERNING THE ACFT ON APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.