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A B757 crew was issued dfw taxi clearance; 'taxi runway 17R full length;' which also includes a standard routing that the crew was unaware of.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 657887 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200505 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 657887 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On taxi out at dfw we were given 'taxi runway 17R full length.' that sounds like a generic taxi clearance; which could be given at any airport. At dfw it is also a standard taxi route taxi clearance. We didn't follow proper route. I believe the name of the standard taxi route should be changed to ease confusion. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that numerous taxi rtes exist for access to the same runway. He suggests that a more deterministic breakdown of each route be designed. The designations could be alpha numeric; alphabetic only; or any combination; just not a broad 'taxi to xxr.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 CREW WAS ISSUED DFW TAXI CLRNC; 'TAXI RWY 17R FULL LENGTH;' WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A STANDARD ROUTING THAT THE CREW WAS UNAWARE OF.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT AT DFW WE WERE GIVEN 'TAXI RWY 17R FULL LENGTH.' THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GENERIC TAXI CLRNC; WHICH COULD BE GIVEN AT ANY ARPT. AT DFW IT IS ALSO A STANDARD TAXI RTE TAXI CLRNC. WE DIDN'T FOLLOW PROPER RTE. I BELIEVE THE NAME OF THE STANDARD TAXI RTE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO EASE CONFUSION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT NUMEROUS TAXI RTES EXIST FOR ACCESS TO THE SAME RWY. HE SUGGESTS THAT A MORE DETERMINISTIC BREAKDOWN OF EACH RTE BE DESIGNED. THE DESIGNATIONS COULD BE ALPHA NUMERIC; ALPHABETIC ONLY; OR ANY COMBINATION; JUST NOT A BROAD 'TAXI TO XXR.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.