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The pilot of a king air with a position and hold clearance sighted a landing aircraft on short final and held short while the aircraft landed in front of him.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 632867 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200410 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : arb.airport |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : arb.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : arb.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 632867 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared into position and hold on runway 24. We saw a low flying airplane on a close base/final approach. We stopped short of the runway, but on or over the hold short line. We asked the tower about the traffic and the controller told us to hold our position. The other airplane was then cleared to land and did successfully. The tower then told the other pilot that controller was going to call his base turn for him. He (the other pilot) just flew his normal pattern. If we didn't see the airplane and stop, he would have needed to go around. On a side note, when we were arriving to arb, we were asked to extend our downwind. We then asked the tower to call our base turn. They called our base and we didn't have any problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE PLT OF A KING AIR WITH A POS AND HOLD CLRNC SIGHTED A LNDG ACFT ON SHORT FINAL AND HELD SHORT WHILE THE ACFT LANDED IN FRONT OF HIM.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 24. WE SAW A LOW FLYING AIRPLANE ON A CLOSE BASE/FINAL APCH. WE STOPPED SHORT OF THE RWY, BUT ON OR OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE. WE ASKED THE TWR ABOUT THE TFC AND THE CTLR TOLD US TO HOLD OUR POS. THE OTHER AIRPLANE WAS THEN CLRED TO LAND AND DID SUCCESSFULLY. THE TWR THEN TOLD THE OTHER PLT THAT CTLR WAS GOING TO CALL HIS BASE TURN FOR HIM. HE (THE OTHER PLT) JUST FLEW HIS NORMAL PATTERN. IF WE DIDN'T SEE THE AIRPLANE AND STOP, HE WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO GO AROUND. ON A SIDE NOTE, WHEN WE WERE ARRIVING TO ARB, WE WERE ASKED TO EXTEND OUR DOWNWIND. WE THEN ASKED THE TWR TO CALL OUR BASE TURN. THEY CALLED OUR BASE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.