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ZNY controller experienced operational error at 12000 ft involving climbing and descending aircraft into and from phl airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 621034 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200406 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : mxe.vor |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Twin Turboprop Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v378.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument |
| Experience | controller radar : 16 controller time certified in position1 : 6 flight time total : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 621034 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Aircraft #1 cleared on abnormal route, head-on to normal traffic flow. Aircraft #2 (regional jet), phl departure over mxe wbound. Sector was busy. Adjacent sector holding for phl. Aircraft #1 was descending for arrival into ptw. Asked aircraft 2 times for good rate of descent. Had no room to vector aircraft. Asked departure for good rate of climb. After loss of separation, learned that aircraft #1 descended at less than 1000 FPM, and aircraft #2 climbed at less than 2000 FPM. Both aircraft should have informed controller sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZNY CTLR EXPERIENCED OPERROR AT 12000 FT INVOLVING CLBING AND DSNDING ACFT INTO AND FROM PHL AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ACFT #1 CLRED ON ABNORMAL RTE, HEAD-ON TO NORMAL TFC FLOW. ACFT #2 (REGIONAL JET), PHL DEP OVER MXE WBOUND. SECTOR WAS BUSY. ADJACENT SECTOR HOLDING FOR PHL. ACFT #1 WAS DSNDING FOR ARR INTO PTW. ASKED ACFT 2 TIMES FOR GOOD RATE OF DSCNT. HAD NO ROOM TO VECTOR ACFT. ASKED DEP FOR GOOD RATE OF CLB. AFTER LOSS OF SEPARATION, LEARNED THAT ACFT #1 DSNDED AT LESS THAN 1000 FPM, AND ACFT #2 CLBED AT LESS THAN 2000 FPM. BOTH ACFT SHOULD HAVE INFORMED CTLR SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.