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PA28 initiates go around on short final at 2l1 because of other aircraft entering runway during CTAF communications.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 616732 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 2l1.airport |
| State Reference | ND |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : position and hold ground : takeoff roll ground : taxi |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 540 flight time type : 260 |
| ASRS Report | 616732 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : executed go around |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was with a student practicing lndgs at larimore airport (2l1). We entered the pattern on left, midfield, downwind for runway 30. We made a radio call when approaching the airport from the east, when overflying at 2400 ft MSL, when entering the midfield downwind, when turning base, and when turning final for runway 30. There were numerous aircraft operating at the airport for a fly-in. As we were on short final (1/2 mi out) runway 30, a cessna made a radio call that he was departing runway 30 and then turned onto the runway and began to take off. Immediately after this call, I made a call stating again that we were on short final for the runway and said we were going around. (We clearly had the right of way.) we started the go around as soon as the aircraft rolled on the runway (we were almost 1/4 mi final at that point) and on our climb, moved to the right of the runway to keep traffic in sight. We made another call during the go around, stating we were just above the runway. Regardless, the aircraft (who is also making radio calls on the same frequency) continued to take off knowing full well that we were three. At this point, we could not see the departing aircraft because he was below our left wing, so we made a right 360 degrees (after we had altitude to do so) to give the pilot below us time to fly upwind so that he wouldn't climb right up into us. So basically, the departing cessna didn't give way to us (the landing traffic). We, as a result, did a go around while the cessna continued his takeoff roll below us and slightly to the left.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 INITIATES GAR ON SHORT FINAL AT 2L1 BECAUSE OF OTHER ACFT ENTERING RWY DURING CTAF COMS.
Narrative: I WAS WITH A STUDENT PRACTICING LNDGS AT LARIMORE ARPT (2L1). WE ENTERED THE PATTERN ON L, MIDFIELD, DOWNWIND FOR RWY 30. WE MADE A RADIO CALL WHEN APCHING THE ARPT FROM THE E, WHEN OVERFLYING AT 2400 FT MSL, WHEN ENTERING THE MIDFIELD DOWNWIND, WHEN TURNING BASE, AND WHEN TURNING FINAL FOR RWY 30. THERE WERE NUMEROUS ACFT OPERATING AT THE ARPT FOR A FLY-IN. AS WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL (1/2 MI OUT) RWY 30, A CESSNA MADE A RADIO CALL THAT HE WAS DEPARTING RWY 30 AND THEN TURNED ONTO THE RWY AND BEGAN TO TAKE OFF. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS CALL, I MADE A CALL STATING AGAIN THAT WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL FOR THE RWY AND SAID WE WERE GOING AROUND. (WE CLRLY HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY.) WE STARTED THE GAR AS SOON AS THE ACFT ROLLED ON THE RWY (WE WERE ALMOST 1/4 MI FINAL AT THAT POINT) AND ON OUR CLB, MOVED TO THE R OF THE RWY TO KEEP TFC IN SIGHT. WE MADE ANOTHER CALL DURING THE GAR, STATING WE WERE JUST ABOVE THE RWY. REGARDLESS, THE ACFT (WHO IS ALSO MAKING RADIO CALLS ON THE SAME FREQ) CONTINUED TO TAKE OFF KNOWING FULL WELL THAT WE WERE THREE. AT THIS POINT, WE COULD NOT SEE THE DEPARTING ACFT BECAUSE HE WAS BELOW OUR L WING, SO WE MADE A R 360 DEGS (AFTER WE HAD ALT TO DO SO) TO GIVE THE PLT BELOW US TIME TO FLY UPWIND SO THAT HE WOULDN'T CLB RIGHT UP INTO US. SO BASICALLY, THE DEPARTING CESSNA DIDN'T GIVE WAY TO US (THE LNDG TFC). WE, AS A RESULT, DID A GAR WHILE THE CESSNA CONTINUED HIS TKOF ROLL BELOW US AND SLIGHTLY TO THE L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.