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M20R, departing sch, unable to obtain class C VFR penetration clearance due to alb TRACON frequency congestion.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 599196 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sch.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 378 msl bound upper : 1800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : alb.tracon tower : sch.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude ground : preflight |
| Route In Use | departure : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1150 flight time type : 350 |
| ASRS Report | 599196 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : alb.tracon |
Narrative:
Requested flight following on the ground at sch. Was informed/told to call albany approach after departure. High workload resulting from inability to obtain VFR squawk code on the ground and frequency congestion airborne nearly resulted in busting into the alb class C airspace during initial climb. I caught the situation in time. No harm, no foul, but it would be vastly easier if sch ground would call albany, issue squawk codes and coordinate VFR climbs into albany's airspace. This has been an issue for yrs at this facility. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter flies into and out of sch 2 or 3 times a yr. Reporter advised that this was the first time he had difficulty obtaining VFR flight following, but recognized that the controller was busy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: M20R, DEPARTING SCH, UNABLE TO OBTAIN CLASS C VFR PENETRATION CLRNC DUE TO ALB TRACON FREQ CONGESTION.
Narrative: REQUESTED FLT FOLLOWING ON THE GND AT SCH. WAS INFORMED/TOLD TO CALL ALBANY APCH AFTER DEP. HIGH WORKLOAD RESULTING FROM INABILITY TO OBTAIN VFR SQUAWK CODE ON THE GND AND FREQ CONGESTION AIRBORNE NEARLY RESULTED IN BUSTING INTO THE ALB CLASS C AIRSPACE DURING INITIAL CLB. I CAUGHT THE SIT IN TIME. NO HARM, NO FOUL, BUT IT WOULD BE VASTLY EASIER IF SCH GND WOULD CALL ALBANY, ISSUE SQUAWK CODES AND COORDINATE VFR CLBS INTO ALBANY'S AIRSPACE. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YRS AT THIS FACILITY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR FLIES INTO AND OUT OF SCH 2 OR 3 TIMES A YR. RPTR ADVISED THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING VFR FLT FOLLOWING, BUT RECOGNIZED THAT THE CTLR WAS BUSY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.