<< >> NASA ASRS Report 597709, October 2003

B757-200 flight crew was told by the local controller that the minimum altitude to overfly the txkf island at night was 5000 ft, having observed the flight at a lower altitude.

Attributes
ACN	597709
Time
Date	200310
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : txkf.airport
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl single value : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : txkf.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
ASRS Report	597709
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

We were cleared for a visual approach to runway 30 at bermuda. From our current position, the best way to conduct the approach was to enter a left downwind. As we reported to the tower our position on left downwind at 2500 ft, he told us that we were too low, and that the minimum altitude for overflt of the island after dark was 5000 ft. After landing, we could not find the 5000 ft altitude restr on any of our charts, airport pages, approach plates, etc. If such a restr really does exist, perhaps it should be added to the customized air carrier page.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757-200 FLT CREW WAS TOLD BY THE LCL CTLR THAT THE MINIMUM ALT TO OVERFLY THE TXKF ISLAND AT NIGHT WAS 5000 FT, HAVING OBSERVED THE FLT AT A LOWER ALT.

Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 30 AT BERMUDA. FROM OUR CURRENT POS, THE BEST WAY TO CONDUCT THE APCH WAS TO ENTER A L DOWNWIND. AS WE RPTED TO THE TWR OUR POS ON L DOWNWIND AT 2500 FT, HE TOLD US THAT WE WERE TOO LOW, AND THAT THE MINIMUM ALT FOR OVERFLT OF THE ISLAND AFTER DARK WAS 5000 FT. AFTER LNDG, WE COULD NOT FIND THE 5000 FT ALT RESTR ON ANY OF OUR CHARTS, ARPT PAGES, APCH PLATES, ETC. IF SUCH A RESTR REALLY DOES EXIST, PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE CUSTOMIZED ACR PAGE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.