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R22 instructor and student are advised on landing at jyo that they are being violated for an uncoord ADIZ entry. Pilots allege neither isp nor jyo FSS advised an ADIZ flight plan was required.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 595312 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200310 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jyo.airport |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Robinson R22 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 1570 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 595312 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure FAA |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
New york FSS was called by my student to attain a WX brief, NOTAMS and flight restrs for a VFR flight to leesburg executive (jyo). The briefer gave the WX and NOTAMS for the new york area and directed my student to call leesburg FSS. As my student and I listened to the briefer, there was never a mention of having to file an ADIZ flight plan into leesburg executive. We received restrs such as the 5 NM around camp david and restr at mcguire AFB -- restrs that had no factor for our flight to leesburg executive, as we decided to stay well north of phl's class B outer ring en route leesburg executive (jyo). Upon landing at jyo we were directed to contact washington TRACON because we had busted dulles class B ADIZ flight zone, which surprised me! In summary, new york and leesburg FSS's were called and neither service informed us of a need for an ADIZ flight plan to fly into leesburg executive. If that would have come to our attention, we would obviously have taken proper action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: R22 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT ARE ADVISED ON LNDG AT JYO THAT THEY ARE BEING VIOLATED FOR AN UNCOORD ADIZ ENTRY. PLTS ALLEGE NEITHER ISP NOR JYO FSS ADVISED AN ADIZ FLT PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
Narrative: NEW YORK FSS WAS CALLED BY MY STUDENT TO ATTAIN A WX BRIEF, NOTAMS AND FLT RESTRS FOR A VFR FLT TO LEESBURG EXECUTIVE (JYO). THE BRIEFER GAVE THE WX AND NOTAMS FOR THE NEW YORK AREA AND DIRECTED MY STUDENT TO CALL LEESBURG FSS. AS MY STUDENT AND I LISTENED TO THE BRIEFER, THERE WAS NEVER A MENTION OF HAVING TO FILE AN ADIZ FLT PLAN INTO LEESBURG EXECUTIVE. WE RECEIVED RESTRS SUCH AS THE 5 NM AROUND CAMP DAVID AND RESTR AT MCGUIRE AFB -- RESTRS THAT HAD NO FACTOR FOR OUR FLT TO LEESBURG EXECUTIVE, AS WE DECIDED TO STAY WELL N OF PHL'S CLASS B OUTER RING ENRTE LEESBURG EXECUTIVE (JYO). UPON LNDG AT JYO WE WERE DIRECTED TO CONTACT WASHINGTON TRACON BECAUSE WE HAD BUSTED DULLES CLASS B ADIZ FLT ZONE, WHICH SURPRISED ME! IN SUMMARY, NEW YORK AND LEESBURG FSS'S WERE CALLED AND NEITHER SVC INFORMED US OF A NEED FOR AN ADIZ FLT PLAN TO FLY INTO LEESBURG EXECUTIVE. IF THAT WOULD HAVE COME TO OUR ATTN, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TAKEN PROPER ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.