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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 587972 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200307 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mtp.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 18 flight time total : 850 flight time type : 735 |
| ASRS Report | 587972 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was taxiing off the ramp at montauk (mtp) to go to the taxiway. It was a busy day and planes were parked on the borderline of the ramp and runway. Thinking I was still on the ramp, I inadvertently taxied onto the runway while a cessna was taking off from the other end. There was no risk of collision due to distance between planes and cessna's liftoff in less than 1/2 runway length. I heard cessna announce departure, but I assumed I was on the ramp or taxiway entrance when I commenced my taxi. I'm not sure if the ramp/runway intersection is properly marked -- if it is, I clearly missed it. Also, not sure aircraft should be allowed to park so close to runway, with no clear path to taxiway. It was a short distance (2 plane lengths) to taxiway, I was not on the runway for 30 seconds. I failed to recognize end of ramp -- beginning of runway. I was not in a hurry, I just don't think it's marked properly. I'll check next time I go out there.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C182 DEP FROM MTP ENTERS RWY WITH CESSNA DEPARTING FROM OPPOSITE END.
Narrative: I WAS TAXIING OFF THE RAMP AT MONTAUK (MTP) TO GO TO THE TXWY. IT WAS A BUSY DAY AND PLANES WERE PARKED ON THE BORDERLINE OF THE RAMP AND RWY. THINKING I WAS STILL ON THE RAMP, I INADVERTENTLY TAXIED ONTO THE RWY WHILE A CESSNA WAS TAKING OFF FROM THE OTHER END. THERE WAS NO RISK OF COLLISION DUE TO DISTANCE BTWN PLANES AND CESSNA'S LIFTOFF IN LESS THAN 1/2 RWY LENGTH. I HEARD CESSNA ANNOUNCE DEP, BUT I ASSUMED I WAS ON THE RAMP OR TXWY ENTRANCE WHEN I COMMENCED MY TAXI. I'M NOT SURE IF THE RAMP/RWY INTXN IS PROPERLY MARKED -- IF IT IS, I CLRLY MISSED IT. ALSO, NOT SURE ACFT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PARK SO CLOSE TO RWY, WITH NO CLR PATH TO TXWY. IT WAS A SHORT DISTANCE (2 PLANE LENGTHS) TO TXWY, I WAS NOT ON THE RWY FOR 30 SECONDS. I FAILED TO RECOGNIZE END OF RAMP -- BEGINNING OF RWY. I WAS NOT IN A HURRY, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S MARKED PROPERLY. I'LL CHK NEXT TIME I GO OUT THERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.