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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : mqi.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||cruise : level|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : private|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 40|
flight time total : 1300
flight time type : 470
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Anomaly||airspace violation : entry|
non adherence : published procedure
non adherence : far
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
faa : investigated
|Problem Areas||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
I phoned flight service for a briefing on a VFR flight from mqi to een. I was very specific in my suggestions on tfr's along my anticipated route. The briefer explained the location of the new tfr boundaries around the washington class B. He stated specifically that the tfr around nyc was the class B down to the ground. He did not say it was extended to the mode C veil. I avoided the washington tfr, and would also have avoided the new york tfr if I had been correctly briefed. The briefer also said that, prior to entry, I would have to land outside the tfr and get entry permission on the ground. Simply put, the briefer was not clear on the tfr locations or procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA28 PLT COMPLAINED THAT RDU FSS DID NOT PROPERLY BRIEF HIM, WHICH CAUSED HIM TO VIOLATE THE NEW YORK ADIZ.
Narrative: I PHONED FLT SVC FOR A BRIEFING ON A VFR FLT FROM MQI TO EEN. I WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN MY SUGGESTIONS ON TFR'S ALONG MY ANTICIPATED RTE. THE BRIEFER EXPLAINED THE LOCATION OF THE NEW TFR BOUNDARIES AROUND THE WASHINGTON CLASS B. HE STATED SPECIFICALLY THAT THE TFR AROUND NYC WAS THE CLASS B DOWN TO THE GND. HE DID NOT SAY IT WAS EXTENDED TO THE MODE C VEIL. I AVOIDED THE WASHINGTON TFR, AND WOULD ALSO HAVE AVOIDED THE NEW YORK TFR IF I HAD BEEN CORRECTLY BRIEFED. THE BRIEFER ALSO SAID THAT, PRIOR TO ENTRY, I WOULD HAVE TO LAND OUTSIDE THE TFR AND GET ENTRY PERMISSION ON THE GND. SIMPLY PUT, THE BRIEFER WAS NOT CLR ON THE TFR LOCATIONS OR PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.