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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : vny.airport|
|Altitude||msl single value : 3500|
|Controlling Facilities||tower : whp.tower|
tower : vny.tower
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||descent : intermediate altitude|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
pilot : multi engine
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 32|
flight time total : 2097
flight time type : 1500
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Anomaly||airspace violation : entry|
non adherence : far
non adherence : published procedure
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Problem Areas||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
I got on line briefing. (Note: somehow missed tfr would be in effect later that day). First mistake! Flew VFR to L71. Went up twice in a king air to make skydives. First up to 10000 ft MSL, second up to 14000 ft MSL. From this I could see the WX clear to the shoreline. Therefore, I felt no need to call FSS and get a briefing. Second mistake! Took off from L71 and climbed to 5500 ft MSL. I started a descent between aqua dulce and lake hughes. Switched frequency to sct approach and heard a lot of squawk about lax and filing flight plans and getting a code. This was not normal operations for the area. Should have requested from ATC what was up, but they were so busy with other xmissions, I opted to not talk to them. Third mistake! Next I changed frequency to whp tower and stated, who I was at 3500 ft, over newhall pass, landing. ATC replied, 'do you have a code?' I replied, 'yes, 1200.' then he asked, 'sct did not give you a discrete code?' I replied, 'negative. I was not talking to sct.' at this point, whp asked if I was aware of the tfr. I replied, 'I guess not.' at this point, I knew that tfr incursion had happened. Then, ATC whp cleared me to land. I landed and while putting my plane in the hangar, a man came up to me and said, 'call these numbers,' and handed me a piece of paper. He did not identify himself. I called the numbers and gave them the information they wanted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C-182 PLT VIOLATED A TFR IN SCT'S AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I GOT ON LINE BRIEFING. (NOTE: SOMEHOW MISSED TFR WOULD BE IN EFFECT LATER THAT DAY). FIRST MISTAKE! FLEW VFR TO L71. WENT UP TWICE IN A KING AIR TO MAKE SKYDIVES. FIRST UP TO 10000 FT MSL, SECOND UP TO 14000 FT MSL. FROM THIS I COULD SEE THE WX CLEAR TO THE SHORELINE. THEREFORE, I FELT NO NEED TO CALL FSS AND GET A BRIEFING. SECOND MISTAKE! TOOK OFF FROM L71 AND CLBED TO 5500 FT MSL. I STARTED A DSCNT BTWN AQUA DULCE AND LAKE HUGHES. SWITCHED FREQ TO SCT APCH AND HEARD A LOT OF SQUAWK ABOUT LAX AND FILING FLT PLANS AND GETTING A CODE. THIS WAS NOT NORMAL OPS FOR THE AREA. SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED FROM ATC WHAT WAS UP, BUT THEY WERE SO BUSY WITH OTHER XMISSIONS, I OPTED TO NOT TALK TO THEM. THIRD MISTAKE! NEXT I CHANGED FREQ TO WHP TWR AND STATED, WHO I WAS AT 3500 FT, OVER NEWHALL PASS, LNDG. ATC REPLIED, 'DO YOU HAVE A CODE?' I REPLIED, 'YES, 1200.' THEN HE ASKED, 'SCT DID NOT GIVE YOU A DISCRETE CODE?' I REPLIED, 'NEGATIVE. I WAS NOT TALKING TO SCT.' AT THIS POINT, WHP ASKED IF I WAS AWARE OF THE TFR. I REPLIED, 'I GUESS NOT.' AT THIS POINT, I KNEW THAT TFR INCURSION HAD HAPPENED. THEN, ATC WHP CLRED ME TO LAND. I LANDED AND WHILE PUTTING MY PLANE IN THE HANGAR, A MAN CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, 'CALL THESE NUMBERS,' AND HANDED ME A PIECE OF PAPER. HE DID NOT IDENTIFY HIMSELF. I CALLED THE NUMBERS AND GAVE THEM THE INFO THEY WANTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.