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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 583037 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200305 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : volta |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa.artcc tracon : nct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : marvn |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 583037 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 582975 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were flying the marvn arrival to oak and were level at 13000 ft MSL. We had been told to cross volta at 13000 ft and had done that. A few mins later, norcal approach emphatically said we needed to be level at 10000 ft in 5 mi. We told the controller we had not previously been given a clearance to 10000 ft, but we then expedited a descent to 10000 ft. The controller later said she thought we had previously been given a clearance to 10000 ft. After we landed, I called the company ATC specialist. He checked on it and later told me he thought it was caused by a misunderstanding between ZOA and norcal approach. I did not observe any traffic conflicts, either visually or on the TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 ON DSCNT TO OAK EXPRESSED CONCERN WITH ATC'S ALT CLRNC.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE MARVN ARR TO OAK AND WERE LEVEL AT 13000 FT MSL. WE HAD BEEN TOLD TO CROSS VOLTA AT 13000 FT AND HAD DONE THAT. A FEW MINS LATER, NORCAL APCH EMPHATICALLY SAID WE NEEDED TO BE LEVEL AT 10000 FT IN 5 MI. WE TOLD THE CTLR WE HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN GIVEN A CLRNC TO 10000 FT, BUT WE THEN EXPEDITED A DSCNT TO 10000 FT. THE CTLR LATER SAID SHE THOUGHT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN GIVEN A CLRNC TO 10000 FT. AFTER WE LANDED, I CALLED THE COMPANY ATC SPECIALIST. HE CHKED ON IT AND LATER TOLD ME HE THOUGHT IT WAS CAUSED BY A MISUNDERSTANDING BTWN ZOA AND NORCAL APCH. I DID NOT OBSERVE ANY TFC CONFLICTS, EITHER VISUALLY OR ON THE TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.